What happens if turn iCloud on and laptop storage is smaller than stored photos on iCloud

koraks said:

It may help if you also include the text in the 'Notes' column. It makes a difference in some cases.

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Sorry, that suggestion goes over my head...where?
I see no "Notes" button or column anywhere.

Regarding Apple iCloud storage for photos (and other data) going away, I am not concerned as I would get a heads up from my son who works there. I have LOTS more than photos stored there as I use it a one of my back ups.

wiltw said:

Sorry, that suggestion goes over my head...where?
I see no "Notes" button or column anywhere.

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Ah sorry, it may not show up depending on screen layout & window size. I'll post again as an image, perhaps that helps:

Especially towards the lower 30% or so of the list there are some entries with nuances in the right-most column that may be relevant to include.

koraks said:

Ah sorry, it may not show up depending on screen layout & window size. I'll post again as an image, perhaps that helps:

Especially towards the lower 30% or so of the list there are some entries with nuances in the right-most column that may be relevant to include.

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OH, I see. But I don't get it...if I omit the names (with the green checkmarks in your list) what notes am I including?! Sorry a bit slow today. I think the elimination of 'disputed' names suffices, and we need not beat upon this much more.

What matters to me about that list is not so much the question of discontinuation (and yes, the error I hinted at before is still there and no I'm not going to specify it), but the question of its practical relevance. You brought it up as an argument (my interpretation) against the viability or usefulness of cloud storage. I think that's fair in cases where such services end in an unanticipated way, resulting in data loss, but the list contains several entries where this was likely or demonstrably not the case and fair and timely warning was given to users. From my end that's also the reason why I hesitate to further work on that list as it's in my view misleading in the way it's being used.

koraks said:

What matters to me about that list is not so much the question of discontinuation (and yes, the error I hinted at before is still there and no I'm not going to specify it), but the question of its practical relevance. You brought it up as an argument (my interpretation) against the viability or usefulness of cloud storage. I think that's fair in cases where such services end in an unanticipated way, resulting in data loss, but the list contains several entries where this was likely or demonstrably not the case and fair and timely warning was given to users. From my end that's also the reason why I hesitate to further work on that list as it's in my view misleading in the way it's being used.

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My bringing up the topic of discontinuance of cloud storage services is NOT so much an 'argument' against its usage (I *still use* cloud storage myself for several different purposes!. as much as an EYES OPEN cautionary to those considering its usage. I am not a Luddite, nor am I being an advocate to NOT use cloud for storage...use it WISELY and with open eyes.
I posted links for a number of aspects of 'lost data' in another thread, to illustrate that all of the same issues that we have in photography are replicated also in the music world, and the video arts. Another EYES OPEN...that the solution to 'lost data' does not yet exist, neither in photography NOR in those other areas....using multiple cloud services is a costly solution to individuals living on limited income. And there have been other posts, in the context of music data, about folks not having access to digital files stored decades ago because of format changes, hardware evolution (and later nonsupport), when one cannot find the time (or motivation) to perpetuate the migration as time passes.

But this is all well off topic of OP!

I think we agree that cloud storage is not a panacea, nor is it an entirely "fire and forget" solution as it does require some attention to how the service develops over time. Within these limitations, it's proven to be here to stay and indeed, both you and I use it for some purposes (FWIW I personally don't use it for photo storage).

koraks said:

I think we agree that cloud storage is not a panacea, nor is it an entirely "fire and forget" solution as it does require some attention to how the service develops over time. Within these limitations, it's proven to be here to stay and indeed, both you and I use it for some purposes (FWIW I personally don't use it for photo storage).

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Yes, agreed. Cloud storage is terrific for...

• sharing files with others (who do not shared a common LAN) from time to time
• having remote access to a file from multiple locations while travelling, when having multiple (redundant) copies can make versioning a possible issue
• making life so much easier when migrating from one cellphone to a later one

...and the prudent user recognizes the shortcomings and takes measures to try to circumvent them. Just as one needs remedies to overcome any shortcomings of trying to be 'self reliant' in not using cloud solutions.

I have travelled enough where there is unsatifactory access to the cloud -- even in first world countries -- to know that sometimes having a local copy is the ONLY remedy.

Absolutely! My only cloud storage use at present is for easy sync of select files between multiple devices. It's great for that.