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Oscar Carlsson

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Printing for a friend, when I discovered this strange artefact in my friends shirt:


What happened here? I have it in all my prints from this negative, even the straight print. It's hard to tell if the line runs all the way through the image, it aligns pretty much with the window behind the subject.

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Andreas by Oscar Carlsson, on Flickr
 
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What format (looks like 4x5/8x10?), and how was the developing done? I'd also question the dark 'bump' below his shirt (camera issue).
 

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Without knowing camera/film format/shutter details it is difficult to speculate. If it is roll film, it could be a slight light leak. If a horizontal focal plane shutter there could be something amiss there. There is that bright splash of light at the upper right -- could that be causing some sort of reflection inside the camera?

All wild guesses on my part. (And maybe I can't do better even if I know more! :unsure: )
 

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Without any information, my guess it has something to do with filling the tank and not enough agitation-inversions.
 

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Here is what I get wen I click on this thread:

The following error occurred:
You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action. This area is restricted to subscribers.
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

That just means the media is in a Gallery here in Apug. Those areas are subscriber-only.
 
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Sorry for the lack of details!

It's 35 mm, Tri-X or T-MAX, taken with an Olympus OM but unsure which model (20 or 40?). I've printed several copies of this image, and the border is visible in all of them. Other images from the same roll does not have the same defect/feature. The image below is from the same roll:


The film has some base fog and each image required some manipulation but nothing extreme (some burn-ins around 100-150% of base exposure time).

The border in the first image is in the wrong orientation to be a development issue.

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Linnea by Oscar Carlsson, on Flickr
 
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I've now included the same images in a format non-subscribers can see.

Maybe time to subscribe for everyone? It's only a small sum for keeping this great resource online.
 

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My guess is that the frame in question was on the developing reel just below where the end of the roll was, and the edge of the end of the roll curled towards it, inhibiting movement of the developer during agitation. I had this happen a few times, and now I put the film on the reel opposite the natural curl of the film. Seems to help, and it also seems to help some in reducing curl after it's dried.
 
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My guess is that the frame in question was on the developing reel just below where the end of the roll was, and the edge of the end of the roll curled towards it, inhibiting movement of the developer during agitation. I had this happen a few times, and now I put the film on the reel opposite the natural curl of the film. Seems to help, and it also seems to help some in reducing curl after it's dried.

Frame #23 of 24. Pretty sure it was a 24 exposure as well, but if it was a 36 exp that could explain it? Thanks :smile:
 

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I'm wondering if it could be flare.
 

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Dear Oscar,

Could there be an issue with the sprung backintg plate that holds the film in place? In any case I would spend time looking at the camera.

Good luck,

Neal Wydra
 
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