What do you shoot with?

pstake · Mar 14, 2012

amsp said:
I love using my Hasselblad for street work. I find people either don't notice you when you're looking down the WLF, or they respond positively. I also like a challenge, it makes me more thoughtful about what and how I shoot. I'd still like a nice rangefinder with a fast lens though, for low light work.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm

Yes ... just like everybody else, I really like this photo, AMSP. Thanks for sharing!

I can see the merits of the waist-level viewfinder as well as the stand-near-populated-area-with-large-format method. Unfortunately I can't afford either right now. Hass is def. on my permanent wish list. Large format, perhaps one day as well.

I think that something I'm taking away from this conversation, is 1) that I'm not the only one out there shooting street with an SLR; 2) many of us have similar experiences / reactions from people while shooting street and 3) finding a way to not look at your subjects directly (i.e. under a curtain of a large format, down into the WLF) can direct attention away from you.

amsp · Mar 14, 2012

pstake said:
Yes ... just like everybody else, I really like this photo, AMSP. Thanks for sharing!

I can see the merits of the waist-level viewfinder as well as the stand-near-populated-area-with-large-format method. Unfortunately I can't afford either right now. Hass is def. on my permanent wish list. Large format, perhaps one day as well.

I think that something I'm taking away from this conversation, is 1) that I'm not the only one out there shooting street with an SLR; 2) many of us have similar experiences / reactions from people while shooting street and 3) finding a way to not look at your subjects directly (i.e. under a curtain of a large format, down into the WLF) can direct attention away from you.

Thanks, here's a couple of tips n' tricks I use myself... 1.) Look ahead to spot the moment before it happens. 2.) Prefocus and walk into the shot, or wait for the subject to walk into it, with a Hassy WLF you will see it snap into focus nicely. 3.) Pretend you're focusing on something else, if the subject notices you but isn't sure look past them and keep walking. This will convince them you were photographing something else. If they notice you and there's no doubt you were shooting them, SMILE! 4.) Sometimes it's just good manners to ask first, most of the time people will say yes. If they don't agree, don't be the asshole that takes the shot anyway. 5.) Be relaxed and have fun, people pick up on your vibe.

Cheers

pstake · Mar 21, 2012

Strangely, I've devolved and found it better. Been shooting with my Yashica FX-2 and Tessar pancake. The FX-2 has always been a favorite for me because of its 3-m functional simplicity. I realized while street shooting one day how quiet the shutter is, in comparison to the FX-3 ... and even compared the RTS (The RTS 2 is equally quiet) ... anyway, something about seems to make me a little less aggressive-looking, which is good. Still deal with some of the same problems but I think this may be my new street set up.

E. von Hoegh · Mar 22, 2012

What do you shoot with?

For rabbits and birds, I use a shotgun - an old Remington pump. For deer, I use a .303 Enfield. For targets, I use a BSA .22rf, and a home built .22/250. For amusement , I use the above, plus an old Krag, a Schmidt-Rubin, and a .45 revolver.

JohnMeadows · Mar 22, 2012

I've recently picked up a Leica IIIb and a CV 21/4 and I can definitely see the appeal of this combo for street work!

jp498 · Mar 22, 2012

Rick A said:
OO buck and slugs. Inside buildings I opt for #4 shot for max body damage and less wall penetration.

Was gonna ask which choke you'd use, but if it's buck and slug, probably no choke.

I've got a double barrel stoeger. I can have two different choices loaded at the same time. Could be a timeless prop for wedding photos too.

pstake · Mar 23, 2012

jp498 said:
Was gonna ask which choke you'd use, but if it's buck and slug, probably no choke.

I've got a double barrel stoeger. I can have two different choices loaded at the same time. Could be a timeless prop for wedding photos too.

Having received my formal education in New England, I should have known that my choice of verb would be exploited as a double entendre, particularly by APUG'rs in the lofty latitudes.

Hikari · Mar 23, 2012

Mamiya 6
Horseman SW612
Widelux F8

E. von Hoegh · Mar 24, 2012

pstake said:
Having received my formal education in New England, I should have known that my choice of verb would be exploited as a double entendre, particularly by APUG'rs in the lofty latitudes.

For turkeys, I use a .22rf and shoot their heads off.

EASmithV · Mar 25, 2012

Benelli Montefeltro 12 with 28" barrel and crio chokes

cjbecker · Mar 26, 2012

Browning a5's, I shoot trap 12g and skeet 20g.

Thomas Bertilsson · Mar 26, 2012

My heart and my brain, hopefully...
The more the camera and the lens is out of the way, the more likely that is of happening.

John Austin · Mar 26, 2012

For all those misreading this and using it as a forum for ballistics boasting, go for extreme wide angle and use a hand grenade, holding it firmly during use

E. von Hoegh · Mar 26, 2012

Grumpy Old Man said:
For all those misreading this and using it as a forum for ballistics boasting, go for extreme wide angle and use a hand grenade, holding it firmly during use

We're not misreading it, but trying to distinguish between taking photographs and shooting firearms. I happen to have cameras and guns, so in an attempt to prevent confusion, I say "shooting" when I'm using guns, and "photographing" when I'm using cameras. I also say "driving" when using an automobile.

Those who feel good about using imprecise language may continue to do so, however they have no cause to gripe when they are not understood. As Mark Twain wrote, "the difference between the right word and almost the right word is the difference between 'lightning' and 'lightningbug'".

Perhaps you should retain that grenade for personal use.

daleeman · Mar 26, 2012

Grumpy Old Man said:
For all those misreading this and using it as a forum for ballistics boasting, go for extreme wide angle and use a hand grenade, holding it firmly during use

I usually have my 38 + P, J frame S&W tucked in my belt if the camera about my neck sets off some unsuspecting person on the street I capture with my camera. Never had to swap "formats" while out shooting.
YET.

pstake · Mar 26, 2012

E. von Hoegh said:
We're not misreading it, but trying to distinguish between taking photographs and shooting firearms. I happen to have cameras and guns, so in an attempt to prevent confusion, I say "shooting" when I'm using guns, and "photographing" when I'm using cameras.

Those who feel good about using imprecise language may continue to do so, however they have no cause to gripe when they are not understood. As Mark Twain wrote, "the difference between the right word and almost the right word is the difference between 'lightning' and 'lightningbug'".

How courageous. Takes a big man stand up against slang in a friendly thread about photography, in a forum whose overwhelming purpose is photography. Whether with firearms or not, you're sharpshooting.

I understood that you were not boasting about your firearms as much as your ability to sharpshoot language. There is irony in your conjuring of Mark Twain to criticize the use of slang, considering that Twain employed slang throughout his most-famous novel.

If this was a firearms AND cameras forum, you would have a valid gripe and a good reason to hijack this thread. But this is not a firearms and cameras forum.

E. von Hoegh said:
Those who feel good about using imprecise language may continue to do so, however they have no cause to gripe when they are not understood.

In this sentence, the word "those" requires a noun in the previous sentence or immediately afterward.
"Those" is not a normal pronoun. It is a demonstrative pronoun.

E. von Hoegh said:
For turkeys, I use a .22rf and shoot their heads off.

This sentence ends in a preposition, a major faux pas among the literary elite.

".22rf" is incorrectly written. There should be a space between the numerals and letters. And if you want to be, ahem, precise you would write .22-caliber rifle."

Now, when noble Von Hoegh, courageous defender of syntactical correctness, is finished protesting the verb, "shoot," I'd still like to hear from street shooters about their chosen equipment. And I wager a few others here would be interested in this relevant topic as well.

For what it's worth, Von, I carry a Star Firestar ultra-compact 9mm.

It has very little recoil and incredible stopping power.

E. von Hoegh · Mar 26, 2012

daleeman said:
I usually have my 38 + P, J frame S&W tucked in my belt if the camera about my neck sets off some unsuspecting person on the street I capture with my camera. Never had to swap "formats" while out shooting.
YET.

Are you posting about photographing people, or shooting them? I can't tell which.

E. von Hoegh · Mar 26, 2012

pstake said:
How courageous. Takes a big man stand up against slang in a friendly thread about photography, in a forum whose overwhelming purpose is photography. Whether with firearms or not, you're sharpshooting.

I understood that you were not boasting about your firearms as much as your ability to sharpshoot language. There is irony in your conjuring of Mark Twain to criticize the use of slang, considering that Twain employed slang throughout his most-famous novel.

If this was a firearms AND cameras forum, you would have a valid gripe and a good reason to hijack this thread. But this is not a firearms and cameras forum.

In this sentence, the word "those" requires a noun in the previous sentence or immediately afterward.
"Those" is not a normal pronoun. It is a demonstrative pronoun.

This sentence ends in a preposition, a major faux pas among the literary elite.

".22rf" is incorrectly written. There should be a space between the numerals and letters. And if you want to be, ahem, precise you would write .22-caliber rifle."

Now, when noble Von Hoegh, courageous defender of syntactical correctness, is finished protesting the verb, "shoot," I'd still like to hear from street shooters about their chosen equipment. And I wager a few others here would be interested in this relevant topic as well.

For what it's worth, Von, I carry a Star Firestar ultra-compact 9mm.

It has very little recoil and incredible stopping power.

You're as well informed about English as you are about "stopping power".

pstake · Mar 26, 2012

E. von Hoegh said:
You're as well informed about English as you are about "stopping power".

Punctuation goes inside the quotes, big guy.

LJSLATER · Mar 26, 2012

This isn't really related, but yesterday I was at a cemetery when a herd of deer arrived. I sat on the ground next to a tombstone and within a few minutes, the deer were almost close enough to pet! I had an MD-12 attached to my FM2n and I was able to squeeze off one shot before they scattered.

I could have taken the motor drive off or advanced the film manually, but I really didn't realize how loud the motor was until yesterday.

daleeman · Mar 26, 2012

E. von Hoegh said:
Are you posting about photographing people, or shooting them? I can't tell which.

Actually both, but mostly I was refering to the desire not to change "formats" from 35 to 38 unless necessary. Way things have been going with PC here in the US, one may have to get a conceal carry permit for both soon.

E. von Hoegh · Mar 26, 2012

daleeman said:
Actually both, but mostly I was refering to the desire not to change "formats" from 35 to 38 unless necessary. Way things have been going with PC here in the US, one may have to get a conceal carry permit for both soon.

Gotcha. Either could be appropriate, depending upon the situation.

pstake · Mar 26, 2012

I wonder how this conversation would have gone if I'd have used the word "expose."

amsp · Mar 27, 2012

I've uploaded more street shots to my flickr, all done with my Hassy. In case anyone is interested

pstake · Mar 27, 2012

amsp said:
I've uploaded more street shots to my flickr, all done with my Hassy. In case anyone is interested

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hassy501cm/7015242767/

Very cool, AMSP. This one of the riot police calmly looking at you is really interesting. Would be interesting to know the backstory there.

Great stuff. Reinforcing my quest for a Hassy.

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