MrBrowning
Allowing Ads
So you bleached yourself.Those squeezable PET bottles are great. Just be careful how you squeeze them. I ended up with C-41 bleach all over my shirt and shorts during an early C-41 session. I stripped immediately and rinsed the clothes. Surprisingly nothing stained.
Also think about chemical compatibility ... Know what you have in front of you, so that you react correctly when things go wrong.
What I am about to write will most likely sound like heresy, but allow me to state it anyway: MSDS tend to be overly cautious to the point of sounding ridiculous, even for compounds which we eat every day, see this example for Sodium Chloride:While the often-suggested "read the MSDS" is excellent advice
Precautions: Keep locked up.. Do not ingest. Do not breathe dust. Avoid contact with eyes. Wear suitable protective clothing. If ingested, seek medical advice immediately and show the container or the label.
Storage: Keep container tightly closed. Keep container in a cool, well-ventilated area. Hygroscopic
Engineering Controls: Use process enclosures, local exhaust ventilation, or other engineering controls to keep airborne levels below recommended exposure limits. If user operations generate dust, fume or mist, use ventilation to keep exposure to airborne contaminants below the exposure limit.
Personal Protection: Splash goggles. Lab coat. Dust respirator. Be sure to use an approved/certified respirator or equivalent. Gloves.
Chronic Effects on Humans: MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Mutagenic for mammalian somatic cells. Mutagenic for bacteria and/or yeast.
Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation.
Thanks for the replies everyone. Seems like i'm basically on track if (hopefully not when) i have a major spill of some kind.
Maris that's good to know I'll be putting that in my darkroom notebook in case i ever need it.
JP i rarely dump fixer down the drain (I'm on a septic tank) but I'll keep that in mind.
While the often-suggested "read the MSDS" is excellent advice, and a surprising amount can be gleaned from them even by non-chemists such as myself, they are still relatively technical documents aimed at the industrial user rather than the darkroom worker.
One can also glean quite a lot from trawling posts here and elsewhere (hence I know that Sodium sulfite can be used to reduce the toxicity of bichromate before disposal, for instance) but this kind of information is rarely gathered in one place.
It might be very helpful for those of us who are not chemistry graduates (and who therefore don't know what to conclude about chemical compatibility) for you (or someone else) to write up a primer on these interactions suitable for the intelligent non-specialist and post it in the articles section.
So, for the commonly used photographic chemicals, what not to mix with what, what neutralises what and so on.
So you bleached yourself.
Did you re-develop?
What I am about to write will most likely sound like heresy, but allow me to state it anyway: MSDS tend to be overly cautious to the point of sounding ridiculous, even for compounds which we eat every day, see this example for Sodium Chloride:
If you take such information at face value, you wouldn't want this compound anywhere near your house ...
The assumption was that you had already spilled and needed to clean up. The fixer was on the floor. I can't make it go back in the tray or bottle. The only way I know how to get rid of it in that situation is wash down the drain and follow with soapy water down the drain. By then the fixer is very dilute.
Our house is also on a 50 year old septic tank. Normal disposal of fixer is back in gallon bottles and a trip to the local college's silver recovery system. They allow that for all students, even 74 year old ones, to help the maintenance funding and to help keep the area green.
John Powers
The unwary person might easily read that Sodium chloride example and conclude that therefore any MSDS can be safely ignored - which isn't the case.
Don't forget Rudeofus that you come from a position of knowing a lot of this stuff already: You mustn't assume everyone knows what you know.
It further underlines that "A Guide For The Unwary" would be very useful
You do realize that this MSDS was written for people *working* with the chemical and not filling their salt shaker right? There are legitimate hazards to working with chemicals.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?