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What did I do wrong? Neopan 1600, DD-x

Jim Kramer

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What did I do wrong?
Fuji- Neopan 1600 exposed @ 1600

Pre-rinse with water for 5 min
Ilford DD-X diluted to 1-4 for 5 min
Ilfostop diluted 1-19 for 30 sec
Ilford Rapid Fixer 1-9 for 3 min
Rinse with water for 5 min
Rinse with water + drop of Kodak Photoflow
Hang to dry

Every frame is like this. It looks like the emulsion was scratched off haphazardly. Bad roll of film or did I do something stupid?

This is a 100% crop from a 4000DPI scan of the film:



-Jim
 
Looks like a whack of dust on your negative. It shows up beautifully when scanned.

Dan
 
Thomas Moraitis said:
BTW, and Ilford Rapid Fixer 1+9 for 3 min. doesn't seem enough. Shouldn't it be 1+4 for 5 min.?
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I'm not sure, this is my first go around with the Ilford line of products and this film. I'll not be using them long if this is what I get next time. I'll try 1+4 next time. Thanks.
 
Ilford don't sell dust

Scanners however love it. You may need to dry you film somewhere dust free, a room with carpets, curtains etc, even the clothes you wear when processing all make a very big difference.

Ian
 
It's dust. Lint. Crud. Ilford would not have been in business this long if their products looked like that. Dust on the scanner bed, dust in drying, dust in handling, dust on the filmholders.

Peter Gomena
 
I have issues with Ilford recent prices increases but certainly not with the quality of its products especially DDX. It's been my regular developer for about 4 years now and I've done T-max 100, Ilford D100, D400, HP5+ and D3200 in it as well as APX400 and Neopan 400.It's performed well with all of these and in terms of actual development seems to have done OK with your Neopan 1600.

It's always a big let down when a whole roll ends up like this but I honestly think you have to look elsewhere for the cause. I don't think it's DDX.

FWIW it's not your process either as you seem to have followed all the stages correctly. Looks like foreign material attached itself to the film somehow before it was developed.

I can only offer my sympathy but cannot offer up DDX as the likely cause


pentaxuser
 
Well I've got 5 more rolls from this batch of Neopan; I'll shoot some HP5+ next and see if I have the same issues in development. Thanks to all that answered, but I’m still a bit frustrated. It’s been awhile, but it hasn’t been that long. :-(
 
DD-X is a great developer, especially for that film.

Why the 5 minute pre-rinse, btw? Most people wouldn't pre-soak or pre-rinse film at all, and if they did, not for anything like that length of time.
 
If you look closely, most of the big marks run horizontally as if the film was pulled along some kind of surface while the emulsion was wet and/or soft. Do you have kids?

Denis K
 
mcgrattan said:
DD-X is a great developer, especially for that film.

Why the 5 minute pre-rinse, btw? Most people wouldn't pre-soak or pre-rinse film at all, and if they did, not for anything like that length of time.
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My instructor, way back when, told me to do it. The thought was that after the inept student fumbles with the film to get it on the spool in the dark it could stand a wash before we tried to develop it.
 
Denis K said:
If you look closely, most of the big marks run horizontally as if the film was pulled along some kind of surface while the emulsion was wet and/or soft. Do you have kids?

Denis K
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I do, he's 6 and I made him work the timer so I would know where he was. And made sure he was in bed while the strip was drying.

He wanted to know why he couldn't see the picture on the back of the camera after I took it; so we had a lengthy lesson on film and development.
 
Dear Jim,

I hope you solve the issue, but you can rest easy when purchasing (and using) Ilford products.

Neal Wydra
 
Those are definitely dust marks, nothing to do with the film manufacture, dev, or how you processed it. When the dust is that bad it's generally a sign that it's inside the scanner & that needs to be cleaned. Scan a couple of frames & see if the marks are the same on each, in which case it's the scanner that's dirty. If the marks are on the film you'll have to reconsider how you're drying it. Where was it hung to dry?
 
Thomas Moraitis said:
BTW, and Ilford Rapid Fixer 1+9 for 3 min. doesn't
seem enough. Shouldn't it be 1+4 for 5 min.?
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Nothing wrong with 1+9. The higher dilution is aimed
at FB paper in order to keep silver load levels low; half
the working strength of 1:4 so half the capacity.

Film has a high tolerance for silver so the fixer MAY
be used at a higher concentration. Paper strength
works well for film but again, half the capacity.
Generally the greater the dilution the more
time needed.

I've used rapid fix as dilute as 1:32 one-shot. Dan
 
It's dust. My mentor called them "ropes."
 
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