What about Agfa/Gevaert??

PHOTOTONE · Jun 12, 2007

We know the Agfa plant in Germany was closed a couple of years ago, however the Agfa/Gevaert facility in Belgium is still operating, and makes a number of film products as well as photo paper products. I wonder if they shared emulsion technology, and I wonder if new photo papers could not be produced there that would be very similar to the discontinued Agfa/Germany products? Gevaert (pre-Agfa merger) was a huge maker of film and b/w photopaper products for general photography.

I think that some of the Agfa/Gevaert aerial films are re-cut and spooled and marketed as consumer films by such vendors as Maco.

fhovie · Jun 12, 2007

I think there is a connection with Agfa/Maco and Rollei brands now

mikeg · Jun 12, 2007

I suggest you take a look at this thread (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Mike

AgX · Jun 12, 2007

You all are right.

But as I just stated in another thread Agfa is the hard to asses player at the moment.
The insolvency/disolving of Agfaphoto got them into trouble too (logisticalwise). Their advantage, being big should give them reserves for new ventures, but the same time it makes them inflexible. Don't forget, this company is huge (in all aspects).

I had been preparing a comprehensive post on this with a glance back in history, but am not sure whether there is interest.

AgX · Jun 12, 2007

fhovie said:
I think there is a connection with Agfa/Maco and Rollei brands now

You better put it this way:
Agfa is Agfa and Rollei is Maco

Maco have a licence agreement with the nameholder of the Rollei brandname and obviously some cooperation with the camera manufacturer. Maco sells a part of the films they have got in their portfolio solely under the Rollei brand. Amongst them are 3 films obviously out of the current Agfa portfolio.

PHOTOTONE · Jun 12, 2007

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

Please post your comprehensive post in regards Agfa today...and historic background.

AgX said:
You all are right.

But as I just stated in another thread Agfa is the hard to asses player at the moment.
The insolvency/disolving of Agfaphoto got them into trouble too (logisticalwise). Their advantage, being big should give them reserves for new ventures, but the same time it makes them inflexible. Don't forget, this company is huge (in all aspects).

I had been preparing a comprehensive post on this with a glance back in history, but am not sure whether there is interest.

copake_ham · Jun 12, 2007

Isn't is about time you folks just got real and accepted the fact AGFA film is dead?

Too bad, so sad, but time to move on....

AgX · Jun 13, 2007

copake_ham,

I'm accepting the situation as it is, ambivalent.
I'm not clinging to Agfa films, however the enthusiasm shown by some other members on the sheer idea of Fotoimpex to start a venture in this direction should be accepted too.

Phototone,

Sorry, I'm leaving for a vacancy just next hour, expect that post in the availibility forum coming weekend or next week.

bye

Daniel_OB · Jun 13, 2007

Isn't is about time you folks just got real and accepted the fact AGFA film is dead?
Too bad, so sad, but time to move on....

there are things that are part of our life, like Agfa, and we do not like to forget even when they fade out. Might it has something to do with lack of other problems in our life.

www.Leica-R.com

PHOTOTONE · Jun 13, 2007

AGFAPHOTO IS DEAD, but Agfa/Gevaert is very much alive. There is POTENTIAL for them to make consumer films. Time will tell if they are receptive in the long term to this. They did at one time make consumer films, lots of them, and many varieties of paper. They still make film and paper, although it is targeted to the Aerial mapping, and micro-film markets. They make b/w, color negative and color transparency materials. They also offer custom emulsion coating services. I am curious if they shared emulsion technology with Agfa/Germany and if so, could they make the old Agfa products many of us loved.

rtuttle · Jun 14, 2007

Agfa still makes graphic arts films too. I use them everyday. They used to be one company until a few years ago when they spun off the consumer division. So if the graphics division ever wanted to coat films they probably could.

fhovie · Jun 14, 2007

Gee - I don't know if Agfa is "dead" or not - I have a lot of Agfa materials that are "live" and I recon I'll use them. I did like APX100 and if Agfa was going to make it for a long time, I might seriously compare it with FP4+. I have some wonderful negatives made on APX100 and it may even be a better film. Spending time in such an evaluation now would be fruitless. The RC paper they made was great. Better than some that I am using now that costs more. I still have no use for APX400 - might as well forget shadows - I bet it is really an ASA 200 film compared with TX. If I know APX100 was going to be available in 4x5 for the next 5 years - I would certainly do some comparative tests to see if it would be better for what I do than FP4+.

AgX · Jun 17, 2007

PHOTOTONE said:
ABSOLUTELY!!!!

Please post your comprehensive post in regards Agfa today...and historic background.

Post has been placed at `availibility´.

What about Agfa/Gevaert??

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