We've just had a big outage due to the total failure of the server's hard drive. Then the ISP restored the server and changed the ip's and dns (how people find the site). I figure everyone outside the US is getting this glitter children page when going to apug.org!! I am doing very good to contain my rage right now. I am so sick of this :x The only way I am on the site right now is because my work pc connects to the net via the US and not NZ. I've given the isp many chances lately, mainly because to move the entire site to a new ISP will be quite an ordeal. I'm currently investigating ISP's and will in the next few weeks after thorough research, hand pick one. My wish list is servers running redundant disk systems such as raid, 24x7 phone support, similar cost, etc. One company I am looking at seems to have this and claims in the event of a total server outage they can have the site back up within 2 hours. I think this last outage was 12hrs or so, totally unacceptable and enough is enough. Will keep everyone posted. Thanks, Sean