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I just developed three rolls of HP5+ 135 for a client and one of the rolls had what appears to be damage on the last several frames. Any ideas on what is going on here? [See attached pic].

Just trying to determine what went wrong and whether it likely came out of the camera like that or was it something I did. I can tell you that the torn section on the bottom of frame 36 was there when it came out of the cassette because I felt it. As far as the streaks, I am baffled. I am inclined to think the damage happened before I got it but I just want to make sure.

Is this light exposure? chemical damage? The fact that it's at the end of the roll really has me stumped.
All three rolls were run in the same batch in my deep tank line and this roll was the only one with problems.
They were developed together, N+2, manual dip and dunk in Kodak X-Tol, stock, at 72 degrees.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark

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looks a lot like it stuck to itself in processing - what does the reverse side look like?
 

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If it was the only one with a problem out of several developed at the same time, I would suspect the camera.
 

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Was it on a reel? Plastic, metal? I would guess it was torn by the camera but its possible with a patterson style. Do you know what camera they were using?
 

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Looks to me like you tried to load damaged film into the reel, and due to the damage it didn't get positioned properly into the reel. Two parts of the film ended up sticking together, which prevented those parts from developing and/or fixing properly.
 

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There's stress marks between the sprockets opposite where the films has torn, you need to be more careful winding on when you reach the end of the roll of film, it's quite easy to wind too hard and strip the sprockets.

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There are at least 4 different kinds of artefacts in that film strip:

-) torn film

-) stress marks from the sprocket wheel

-) stress marks from bending the strip

-) marks of not developing resp. not fixing


That strip should find its place in a textbook...
 
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There are at least 4 different kinds of artefacts in that film strip:

That strip should find its place in a textbook...

:smile:
 

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I just developed three rolls of HP5+ 135 for a client and one of the rolls had what appears to be damage on the last several frames. Any ideas on what is going on here? [See attached pic].

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I have a bunch of negatives that look exactly like that, minus the tear in the sprockets. When you loaded that film on the reel the last bit of film didn't sit in properly. Usually the reel is full at this point and you have to use your hand to stick that last little bit of film in the channel in the reel right after you've cut the film from the film's internal spool). That portion of the film touched another area of film directly below it. The chemicals just didn't get in between them so that area isn't properly developed. I found I ran into this very often with 36 exposure rolls as the last few frames were always the hardest to get onto the reel because you've run out of real estate for the film. I notice your issue takes place at those same last couple of frames.

About the sprocket damage- I wonder if you tried to get "one last photo"? Because of where it's torn I kinda suspect you tried to advance the film lever and it almost got you to that elusive 37th frame but then locked up on you. Did you try again to see if it would just go that last little bit? Usually the film winding sprockets will tear the film at the end if you force it. Cameras that have those film advance sprockets only on the bottom will rip there. Even the direction that the film tore seems to back that up. frame 37 was connected to the film canister on the left of your camera, frame 36 would have been sitting on that sprocket on the right side and when you force it it would rip away from the last frame as the sprocket passes through the sprocket hole.
 
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