Bring extra batteries and then bring extra on top of that.
If you can, bring a camera that is fully mechanical as a backup. Also, waste the first few shots with the back of camera open to verify that the film has indeed been taken up. Shoot short rolls, 24 shots max. Hand off the MJU to someone else occasionally. Always keep one camera loaded.
(Bring a digital camera as a last ditch backup plan)
The most important tip. Avoid being commissioned by any bridezillas or groomzillas for that matter
pentaxuser
I don't own any digital cameras, but I have mechanical 35mm and medium format cameras that I'll gladly bring. Thanks for that idea. Secondly, I always heard that shooting with the film back open ruins the whole roll of film even if it's just a few at the start. Will the film still in the case be safe? Lastly, Why do you recommend shooting short rolls? I've heard to do this with medium format too avoid weird shots due to the film not being perfectly flat.
I've been wondering that. I'm hoping that being a film-only wedding photographer will land me into a more laidback, artsy clientele. Is there any good ways to tell whether someone is too uptight before working with them. What would you recommend? I'm thinking about doing an initial meet-and-greet to see if we'd work well together and make my judgement from that meeting.
I don't own any digital cameras, but I have mechanical 35mm and medium format cameras that I'll gladly bring. Thanks for that idea. Secondly, I always heard that shooting with the film back open ruins the whole roll of film even if it's just a few at the start. Will the film still in the case be safe? Lastly, Why do you recommend shooting short rolls? I've heard to do this with medium format too avoid weird shots due to the film not being perfectly flat.
My advise to any new professional, though, is the same: know the craft, know the business, and gain initial experience under the thumb of a seasoned professional.
I'm hoping that being a film-only wedding photographer will land me into a more laidback, artsy clientele.
Absolutely. The questions about whether an opened film back will ruin a roll suggests to me at least that some more mileage in becoming acquainted with the craft would be desirable before dipping one's toe into the professional realm.
An 'artsy' clientele will be attracted primarily by appealing work and maybe by a certain type of personality. I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone on this planet who prioritizes their wedding photog shooting film over more regular requirements like getting photos in a style they like, getting them within a reasonable timeframe, dealing with a professional who knows the drill of shooting an event like this, an overall smooth transaction, a social connection / the feeling the photog understands what the couple wants, etc.
If you search on this forum you'll find one or two recent threads on questions along the lines of "which professionals on here still use film for their work". You'll find that the answers split into roughly two directions:
1: A very, very tiny number of members here who do shoot film and do so professionally. If memory serves, two or three of them. One is already posting in this thread. I'd take his advice on at least bringing a digital backup (or rather, using film as a bonus/add-on) very seriously indeed.
2: A vast majority who feels (and sometimes, damn well knows) that shooting film, charming as it may seem, is from a business point of view a dubious and in many lines of work probably downright stupid thing to do in this day and age. Wedding photography may be one of the few niches where there might be some appeal to the film proposition, but I don't think it'll sell as such - it will only work as part of a package of an overall decent/high-quality and appealing proposition (not just photographically so; see earlier comments).
Of course, many successful entrepreneurs will argue that they've been told that their ideas were stupid when they just started out, and look where it got them. But remember that there's a vast number of people, outnumbering the successful entrepreneurs by a massive landslide, who have learned some painful lessons because they didn't listen. Which is to say: by all means, give it a go, but don't give up your day job, and be very cautious of what risks you're taking. I've seen (and sometimes advised and evaluated/judged, professionally) my share of nascent entrepreneurs, and to be frank, your idea is one that would have garnered a vote of sympathy and not much else.
Sorry about the confrontational message, but as said, it would be odd if nobody would highlight the obvious problems with your idea.
Now, please carry on and explore the idea further, especially the aspect of how shooting film might (or might not) add to a sensible value proposition within a specific niche of wedding photography.
Absolutely. The questions about whether an opened film back will ruin a roll suggests to me at least that some more mileage in becoming acquainted with the craft would be desirable before dipping one's toe into the professional realm.
An 'artsy' clientele will be attracted primarily by appealing work and maybe by a certain type of personality. I think you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone on this planet who prioritizes their wedding photog shooting film over more regular requirements like getting photos in a style they like, getting them within a reasonable timeframe, dealing with a professional who knows the drill of shooting an event like this, an overall smooth transaction, a social connection / the feeling the photog understands what the couple wants, etc.
If you search on this forum you'll find one or two recent threads on questions along the lines of "which professionals on here still use film for their work". You'll find that the answers split into roughly two directions:
1: A very, very tiny number of members here who do shoot film and do so professionally. If memory serves, two or three of them. One is already posting in this thread. I'd take his advice on at least bringing a digital backup (or rather, using film as a bonus/add-on) very seriously indeed.
2: A vast majority who feels (and sometimes, damn well knows) that shooting film, charming as it may seem, is from a business point of view a dubious and in many lines of work probably downright stupid thing to do in this day and age. Wedding photography may be one of the few niches where there might be some appeal to the film proposition, but I don't think it'll sell as such - it will only work as part of a package of an overall decent/high-quality and appealing proposition (not just photographically so; see earlier comments).
Of course, many successful entrepreneurs will argue that they've been told that their ideas were stupid when they just started out, and look where it got them. But remember that there's a vast number of people, outnumbering the successful entrepreneurs by a massive landslide, who have learned some painful lessons because they didn't listen. Which is to say: by all means, give it a go, but don't give up your day job, and be very cautious of what risks you're taking. I've seen (and sometimes advised and evaluated/judged, professionally) my share of nascent entrepreneurs, and to be frank, your idea is one that would have garnered a vote of sympathy and not much else.
Sorry about the confrontational message, but as said, it would be odd if nobody would highlight the obvious problems with your idea.
Now, please carry on and explore the idea further, especially the aspect of how shooting film might (or might not) add to a sensible value proposition within a specific niche of wedding photography.
The last wedding I shot was with nearly identical gear. I shot fewer than 10 rolls of 35mm and probably 15-20 rolls of 120. I used nearly the exact same kit as you (Pentax 645n and the Elan 7E). Some tips: Get a holdfast (or equivalent) strap so that both cameras can hang at your side simultaneously. If you don’t already, make sure you have a few spare backs for your Pentax (2 at a minimum, 3 or 4 preferred) and have them preloaded. Things move quick once they get going so having those really eases some of the stress of the pace. My most important suggestion would be to pick a single ISO and stick with it. I chose 800 so I bought Portra 800 and I shot all of my HP5 pushed a stop. If you’re alternating between various ISOs, you’re asking to make a mistake somewhere since your brain will be so focused on other things. One less variable.
Pay attention to your last frame. Both your cameras auto wind at the end. The 1V isn’t too loud but that Pentax is obnoxiously loud for that setting. Try to work it out to where frame 16 is taken from farther away even if you have to burn that frame on a shot of the ground and then swap inserts and go back to work. Lastly, bring a small external light meter just in case.
Honestly, shooting a wedding on film is not as scary as some would have you believe. If you don’t feel comfortable with strobes then perhaps you’ll need digital when you go to the reception. However, if you feel comfortable shooting strobes without the need to see the results in real time keep on shooting film. People did so for decades out of necessity. It can be done. That said, being able to dial in your settings on the spot with real time feedback of digital serves as a good crutch until you get to that comfort level.
-Omid
Also consider lighting, the type of final product being offered, and what lab will be used, including their capabilities for professional-level printing. Most of the “wedding photography labs” went out of business or pivoted to digital in the 1990’s. Most churches and reception venues have “challenging lighting” to say the least and benefit from skillful strobe usage.
The most important tip. Avoid being commissioned by any bridezillas or groomzillas for that matter
I've been wondering that. I'm hoping that being a film-only wedding photographer will land me into a more laidback, artsy clientele. Is there any good ways to tell whether someone is too uptight before working with them. What would you recommend? I'm thinking about doing an initial meet-and-greet to see if we'd work well together and make my judgement from that meeting.
A big reason why I want to go into wedding photography is because I feel like I would excel at what you mentioned,
I will definitely consider your post.
My friends in the business tell is its more a mother-of-the-bridezilla these days.
Be polite, patient and considerate and have a thick skin. But don't miss the key shots. Find out what is important to the families and schedule anything you can in advance, even a day or so before.
I'm hoping that being a film-only wedding photographer will land me into a more laidback, artsy clientele.
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