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I'm about to start experimenting with toning rc paper, and I want to make sure as good a wash as i can while using the mininum amount of water possible.

Is the continuous agitation of a motor base a tool for this? I don't own a print washer, nor a syphon.
 
Washing RC paper is similar to washing film, in that the substrate is relatively impervious to the chemistry.

I don't know that agitation has as much effect as dilution. Given the relatively small volumes used in the roller tubes, I doubt one gets enough dilution unless one changes the water in the tubes frequently.

I wash my RC prints in the following way:

1) I have two trays and a stand that allows me to stack one tray above the other. They sit in the sink or tub, with the faucet above them;
2) The top tray has a couple of holes drilled in the sidewall near one corner, which permit water to flow out at that point and fall into the tray below;
3) I turn on the faucet and fill the trays. Then I adjust the flow rate to about 400 ml per minute - equivalent to the amount required to replace the contents of each tray once every 5 minutes;
4) I put the print first into the lower tray and leave it to wash for 1 minute. I try to flip it over at least once;
5) I then transfer the print into the upper tray for one further minute, after which I remove the now fully washed RC print.

Once you transfer the print into the top tray, you can put a new print into the lower tray.

The resulting use of water is quite low. The keys to this are:

a) the water flow is quite low; and
b) the time is quite short.

The top wash tray (with the holes drilled in it) isn't an expensive darkroom photographic tray. Depending on the size, it is either a thrift store find, a discount houseware clearance item, or a kitty litter pan :smile:.

Hope this helps
 
Washing RC paper is as simple as giving five 2 minute soaks(fresh water). The coating prevents water and chems from soaking into the base material. Too much time in water can cause delamination (usually at the corners), and allowing moisture in the paper itself, resulting in a ruined print. Only allow the print to remain in chems or wash for the minimum of time required to achieve desired results, delamination can begin in as little as 15 minutes in the wash.
 
Rick:

Ilford recommends a 2 minute wash in running water. Are you suggesting five separate soaks in standing water? If so, I think you may end up using more water than a 2 minute wash in slowly running water.

The only definition I have ever seen for "running" water is in some of the Kodak literature describing washing of film, wherein it is specified as being of sufficient flow to change the water once every 5 minutes.

I wonder if Simon Galley might chime in here with Ilford's thoughts.
 
Rick:

Ilford recommends a 2 minute wash in running water. Are you suggesting five separate soaks in standing water? If so, I think you may end up using more water than a 2 minute wash in slowly running water.

The only definition I have ever seen for "running" water is in some of the Kodak literature describing washing of film, wherein it is specified as being of sufficient flow to change the water once every 5 minutes.

I wonder if Simon Galley might chime in here with Ilford's thoughts.
Sorry, yes, 5 seperate two minute soaks. I ended up with this from personal testing, as I usually end up with several prints in the wash at the same time.. I suppose if I were only washing one print at a time it would clear in a two minute wash of slow running water. Also, I hate to just let water run, I feel I'm wasting more than my fair share doing that.
 
I tend to wash as I print, so the continuously running trickle of water works well for me. Usually one print will finish washing by the time I've got the next print into the fix. Whenever there is a natural break in my printing, I just turn the trickle off.

When I am using 8 x 10 trays for washing, I figure that even if I am printing continuously (e.g. the postcard exchange) I am using only about 12 liters of water each hour.
 
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