warm-tone paper developers

TheFlyingCamera · Nov 21, 2005

Anyone have a recommendation for a good warm-tone paper developer? I've been using good old-fashioned Dektol, but I'd like to try something else, especially for use with my remaining stock of Bergger VCCB paper. Dektol often imparts a greenish tinge to the print which I would gladly do without. Only condition to the request - has to be currently available (ie no Agfa that will be disappearing when current dealer stocks are depleted).

ann · Nov 21, 2005

Try some Zonal Pro Warmtone, or try some Super Patinum at a high dilution ration; i.e. 1:15 wh ich at that ratio is much warmer than some of the warmtoned developers, at least under our conditions and environment.

Alex Hawley · Nov 21, 2005

Are you toning with selenium following development? Many of the warm-tone papers will have a green cast to them until a selenium toning treatment. I know first-hand that Bergger and Ilford do this.

TheFlyingCamera · Nov 21, 2005

sometimes. I don't always want the selenium-toned look, as it makes the prints too cool, or pushes them into that eggplant-purple look.

mono · Nov 21, 2005

Try www.moersch-photochemie.de

timeUnit · Nov 21, 2005

TheFlyingCamera said:
sometimes. I don't always want the selenium-toned look, as it makes the prints too cool, or pushes them into that eggplant-purple look.

Try Forte Polywarmtone. It's not at all purple in selenium. More like chocolate...

Alex Hawley · Nov 21, 2005

TheFlyingCamera said:
sometimes. I don't always want the selenium-toned look, as it makes the prints too cool, or pushes them into that eggplant-purple look.

That depends on how long you tone and the toner dilution. Start with 1:20 for about 3 or four minutes, just until the green disappears, and see what you get. You can dilute the toner even more if desired. I typically use it at 1:50.

MikeK · Nov 22, 2005

TheFlyingCamera said:
Anyone have a recommendation for a good warm-tone paper developer? I've been using good old-fashioned Dektol, but I'd like to try something else, especially for use with my remaining stock of Bergger VCCB paper. Dektol often imparts a greenish tinge to the print which I would gladly do without. Only condition to the request - has to be currently available (ie no Agfa that will be disappearing when current dealer stocks are depleted).

I tested a number of warm tone papers and developers and the effect that selenium toning would have. Follow this link Dead Link Removed you can see the combinations I tested and download a PDF showing the results.

Hope this helps

Mike

TheFlyingCamera · Nov 22, 2005

MikeK said:
I tested a number of warm tone papers and developers and the effect that selenium toning would have. Follow this link Dead Link Removed you can see the combinations I tested and download a PDF showing the results.

Hope this helps

Mike

Mike - where can you get the Defender and the G.262? I've not heard of either one before.

MikeK · Nov 22, 2005

TheFlyingCamera said:
Mike - where can you get the Defender and the G.262? I've not heard of either one before.

They are home brewed developers, the formula is at the end of the PDF document. The chemistry is readily available from a number of sources.

Mike

srs5694 · Nov 22, 2005

TheFlyingCamera said:
Mike - where can you get the Defender and the G.262? I've not heard of either one before.

I don't know if they're available commercially, but here are links to sites with their formulas so you can mix them from scratch:

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Note that I've used neither developer; I just found these via Web searches and by poking around in APUG's recipes section.

Tom Hoskinson · Nov 29, 2005

Both Defender and the Gevaert 262 forrmulas are posted in the APUG Chemical Recipes Section:

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(G-262) (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

May other warm tone recipes are posted there as well.

Simon R Galley · Nov 30, 2005

Dear All,

I do not want to sound too much like a salesperson but :

Just as an FYI ILFORD Photo HARMAN technology are in the launch phase of two new paper developers ILFORD HARMAN Warmtone Paper Developer and ILFORD HARMAN Cooltone Paper Developer both are 1lt to make 10ltr concentrates and of course they don't just work with ILFORD papers. They also do not make the paper go green, should be in retail shops shortly after Christmas in the USA elsewhere lat January I guess.

Simon@ILFORD photo

Gerald Koch · Nov 30, 2005

TheFlyingCamera said:
Dektol often imparts a greenish tinge to the print which I would gladly do without.

Try adding a small amount of benzotriazole either a 0.2% solution or as Edwal Liquid Orthozite to the Dektol. This will shift the print color to colder tones and may help eliminate the greenish cast. Some papers exhibit a greenish cast when the paper developer contains too much bromide.

lee · Nov 30, 2005

I would recommed zone VI from Calumet Photo. Acts very much like Dektol without the green tint.

lee\c

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