Warm tone in the era of international shipping restrictions...

Juan Valdenebro · Jun 3, 2020

All chemicals for real warm tone became ORM-D products and can't be shipped internationally...
How can we get warm tone first, and then warm toning, without using ORM-D products?
My papers are Ilford fiber MG warmtone and Foma fiber Fomatone 131&132.
Thanks.

RalphLambrecht · Jun 3, 2020

Juan Valdenebro said:
All chemicals for real warm tone became ORM-D products and can't be shipped internationally...
How can we get warm tone first, and then warm toning, without using ORM-D products?
My papers are Ilford fiber MG warmtone and Foma fiber Fomatone 131&132.
Thanks.

after the last war, desperate photographers used urine to warm tone their prints.

Juan Valdenebro · Jun 4, 2020

Some people use photographic materials without being true photographers. They feel desperate easily and care more about their prints' tone than about their works' tone. I'm very happy indeed !

mshchem · Jun 4, 2020

The Fomatone is beautiful and tones like crazy. Look for liver of sulfur, it's used to tone jewelry. Should be very cheap. Make a direct sulfide toner. Fomatone tones very well in very dilute Selenium toner if you can find some.
Both those papers are great.

awty · Jun 4, 2020

RalphLambrecht said:
after the last war, desperate photographers used urine to warm tone their prints.

Ha, great tip, guess beer helps.

bdial · Jun 4, 2020

Coffee is a possibility, my understanding is that it actually colors the paper, not the image though.

Ozxplorer · Jun 4, 2020

Juan Valdenebro said:
All chemicals for real warm tone became ORM-D products and can't be shipped internationally...

Hello Juan, which chemistry, specifically, are you wanting? Are you looking for prepackaged toners or individual chemicals which you plan to use when mixing your own...? There is quite a lot of information about toning & toners to be found here, in Photrio, regarding homemade brews.

Donald Qualls · Jun 4, 2020

There's also the option of bleach/redevelop toning. Potassium hexacyanoferrate is used in various industries (hence why we can afford it), combine it with plain table salt and you can bleach your print back to white, then develop in something like homebrew sepia toner (thiourea, as I recall, also used in various industries).

koraks · Jun 4, 2020

Donald, I did some systematic testing with various bleaches and thiourea tining configurations, and my observation was that a ferricyanide +potassium bromide bleach gave by far the most flexibility in getting a variety of sepia tones. Both chloride and iodide gave some nice tones as well, but bromide was far superior to both in terms of flexibility.

Ian Grant · Jun 4, 2020

In another thread I did mention to Juan, the OP, that I've seen photochemistry in stores in Chile, in Santiago and Valparaiso some of it packaged for them locally.

I think the issue is low or lack of demand for more specialist chemistry making it uneconomic to ship and distribute. I noticed that Kodak had little prescence in the B&W market , Ilford and Foma dominated, and there was very little Fuji B$=&W film. Minilabs on the other hand were all Kodak and Fuji and plenty of colour film.

Ian

Raghu Kuvempunagar · Jan 25, 2022

@Juan Valdenebro: if you can get hold of Kala Namak in your country then this sepia toner technique could be of interest to you:
https://www.photrio.com/forum/resources/kala-namak-sepia-toner-for-indirect-toning.451/
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...t-makes-a-terrific-toner.148338/#post-1941999

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