Do you remember the name of this documentary? Through my university library connections, I was able to find one called "The Vivian Maier Mystery". Either way, I think I will watch this soon.
He who controls the copyright controls the narrative.
But before Maloof gained control of the copyright with a partnership with the state there was a BBC documentary that had a bit of a different story. Seemed to paint her as a very intelligent, self determined woman with interviews with a lot of people who new her. She spent a lot of her early years in France, her early photography was of around the French village where she lived, she had connections with local photography groups and political groups. Its France people do that. She also travelled extensively through Asia and Europe after her mother died in the late fifties.
That documentary is buried now from legal threats and probably never again see the light of day. Pity because it was very interesting and made way better sense than the nimble minded slightly crazy nanny story.
It was amusing in the BBC documentary when they interviewed the people who actually bought up her lockers and bundled up the contents to sell to Maloof and others. They were asked how much they made and they said $1600 and looked like weren't we the most stupidest people.
Also remember she was still alive when this was happening, was around 80 still living independently, she meticulously kept all her documents and records, made notes about everything, made moving film recordings and audio recordings and yet we are told no one tried to contact her while she was alive. Two years she lived for after her lockers were sold off, no one tried to track her down. Lived continuously in the same neighbourhood for her retired life, film was taken to the same places for processing, lots of people new of her. Blind Freddie would be able to find her.....then a few months after she slipped and bumped her head and died soon after, someone decided to look for her.....
Do you remember the name of this documentary? Through my university library connections, I was able to find one called "The Vivian Maier Mystery". Either way, I think I will watch this soon.
It shows that as the alternate title, so I think that's the one! I have particularly privileged forms of library digital resources, but I would recommend anyone who is looking for this to check their library. The BBC may not be able to broadcast this anymore, but there are often ways to find these kinds of things under the guise of educational resources.Vivian Maier: Who Took Nanny's Pictures?
I found a 10 minute exerpt of the hour long documentary, would be great if you could find the whole film. This was done in 2013 not long after her death.
This is just a short excerpt of bits and pieces.
On the street, in public- no, you have no privacy right. Because you're in public! The laws are fairly clear on this; read through some of the information al asmp.org to find out how things actually work with respect to copyright, privacy, etc.
This maybe true in the United States, but not so true elsewhere. In France, for example, everyone has an absolute right to their own image. Any use of that imagine is actionable.
Awesome. Thank you!I've posted before about Professor Bannos' book, which is excellent: https://books.google.ca/books?id=cPglEAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Great find! To be watched before it gets taken downThis might be the Vivian Maier documentary of interest:
Yep, there was a whole thread about this somewhere here.This maybe true in the United States, but not so true elsewhere. In France, for example, everyone has an absolute right to their own image. Any use of that imagine is actionable.
He who controls the copyright controls the narrative.
But before Maloof gained control of the copyright with a partnership with the state there was a BBC documentary that had a bit of a different story. Seemed to paint her as a very intelligent, self determined woman with interviews with a lot of people who new her. She spent a lot of her early years in France, her early photography was of around the French village where she lived, she had connections with local photography groups and political groups. Its France people do that. She also travelled extensively through Asia and Europe after her mother died in the late fifties.
That documentary is buried now from legal threats and probably never again see the light of day. Pity because it was very interesting and made way better sense than the nimble minded slightly crazy nanny story.
It was amusing in the BBC documentary when they interviewed the people who actually bought up her lockers and bundled up the contents to sell to Maloof and others. They were asked how much they made and they said $1600 and looked like weren't we the most stupidest people.
Also remember she was still alive when this was happening, was around 80 still living independently, she meticulously kept all her documents and records, made notes about everything, made moving film recordings and audio recordings and yet we are told no one tried to contact her while she was alive. Two years she lived for after her lockers were sold off, no one tried to track her down. Lived continuously in the same neighbourhood for her retired life, film was taken to the same places for processing, lots of people new of her. Blind Freddie would be able to find her.....then a few months after she slipped and bumped her head and died soon after, someone decided to look for her.....
I didn't know these things about her. It sure makes her seem different than the usual story she was a reclusive nanny who didn't have a life.Vivian , printed herself and belonged to a camera club of other enthusiasts. She traveled more extensively than most of us. She built a relationship with a french printer and together they produced over 5000 small fibre prints that are quite lovely.( these images are more landscape travel orientated) A significant portion of them were donated by John Maloof to an organization in Chicago Area, but there are still over 3000 prints in private hands.
All of the negatives I have seen are from Chicago, but I have seen the small prints.
Awesome. Thank you!
Great find! To be watched before it gets taken down
I've posted before about Professor Bannos' book, which is excellent: https://books.google.ca/books?id=cPglEAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
I didn't know these things about her. It sure makes her seem different than the usual story she was a reclusive nanny who didn't have a life.
If you shoot a bicycle race in Paris, and you sell the photo, can you be sued by every, recognizable spectator in the photo.?
I believe the answer is yes. I have heard that people can jump into a news photo in order to sue later.
Well, anybody can sue anybody for anything these days. Just not enough lawyers to handle all the cases.I find this difficult to believe. Who is going to bother to sue? How recognisable are they? Are they portrayed in a negative context?
I believe the answer is yes. I have heard that people can jump into a news photo in order to sue later.
I find this difficult to believe. Who is going to bother to sue? How recognisable are they? Are they portrayed in a negative context?
Everything new is just sad, made for the modern aesthetic.
I'm inclined to agree she was not one of the "greats" but it's mostly due to her outsider status. No one ever promoted her vision while she was alive - including her. The greats have all been promoted in every conceivable way possible - and most of them are "great" on the basis of a handful of recognizable photos. It's impossible to say what her output would have been if she'd been part of the photographic community.
There's plenty of stuff that can be done within those constraints! I know there are a couple of photos in my gallery that could get me in trouble, but for the most part, a lot can be done to keep people anonymousHmm! Won't be headed to France anytime soon.
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