I hope your freezer if full to the max with film.
Stockpiling current products while there is no known end in sight seems a bit premature. Better to invest the effort in more photography and darkroom time?
I hope people continue to stockpile. APUG wouldn't be the same without threads about dots, blotches and patterns on peoples' frozen film.
No. Actually an empty refrigerator uses the most power. A crammed full refrigerator uses the least power. The same goes for freezers. Once the inside is cold, the cooled mass retains the cold much better than the air does. This is very basic thermodynamics and electrical engineering.
By that logic you would never be able to open your freezer and take anything out.
Basic heat transfer theory would indicate that heat loss occurs at the walls of the freezer and would depend only on the temperature difference between the inside and outside of the freezer, regardless of what is inside the freezer. There may be some additional subtleties, such as the heat required to heat the contents of a newly loaded freezer and the effects of opening and closing the door, but basically the cost to run a freezer should be basically independent of how heavily loaded it is.
What I don't understand is the repetitive claim that by stocking a freezer with still available film or paper I am hurting the film and paper manufacturer.
So based on their currently available press releases let's say I'm now worried that Harman's new bosses want to immediately discontinue Gallerie* to goose profits by cutting overhead. But they haven't yet discontinued it. So I buy 5,000 sheets and freeze it. Then I continue buying it at exactly the same frequency as before the mass purchase, except now I simply rotate my stock.
When I need another 100-sheet box I buy it new, stick that newest box at the bottom of the freezer stack, then remove the top box from the same stack, thaw it, and use that oldest box instead. Harman gains a short term bump in sales to me, but there is no post-bump sales decline from me.
The benefit to me is to continue to maintain a 5,000 sheet buffer against a future no-warning overnight product discontinuation. The price paid by me is the initial cost of the 5,000 sheets (which I would have eventually spent anyway), and to now always be using outdated (but well-preserved) paper. Given the new ownership uncertainties, that may be a risk/reward trade-off I'm willing to make.
How does that hurt Harman's overall sales?
Ken
* A speculative example NOT necessarily chosen at random by me...
In your example Ken it doesn't hurt Ilford. But I suspect most people do not do this.
Well that's good, but plenty of other people have issues. I guess future APUGers will find out years from now when people are going through their long expired frozen stashes of discontinued Ilford film and papers.
..., but lots of others who end up with frozen junk.
I didn't say that. There are people who apparently don't have problems, but lots of others who end up with frozen junk.
Denials like this are getting old. People have taken this approach to burying their heads in the sand regarding the disappearance of emulsion for the last 15 or more years, and continue saying the same exact words of disbelief.
The writing is on the wall. Ilford has some awesome emulsions. Be ready to stockpile (within next ten years, max) if you care. Film photography is phasing into a boutique industry and Ilford cannot sustain being a boutique manufacturer - they told us this loud and clear by the sale and Simon's disappearance from this site.
Just face reality please.
Any APUGers near Warrington willing to go knock on Simon's door?
If that's a disease than I have FAS too.
Take two rolls and call me in the morning.
If that's a disease than I have FAS too.
Take two rolls and call me in the morning.
you mean shoot up 2 rolls and call me in the morning
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