Velvia, developed with HC, inverted with second exposure and C41

Hello all,
since its hard to get (and to pay) positive film i am having the problem that i my E6 chemistry goes bad after one or two films. So i tried to develop a Velvia100 (two years over expiration date) with my Phoenix positive approach: Developing in Ilfotec HC 1:19 for 13 minutes, scond exposure and continuing with standard C41.
And i was really surprised by the result. Ok, there is a strong red cast, but can easily corrected if scanned. But for projection it would be nice to have a more neutral result. Anybody has an idea how to get it?
The pictures are scanned with no color correction.

Hi Meinrad, Afraid I don't have any info for you but leads me to a question.

"Developing in Ilfotec HC 1:19 for 13 minutes, scond exposure and continuing with standard C41."

This is new to me and seems like magic. What do you mean by second exposure in your process.

Thanks

hi selyfriday,
its easily explained: You can invert any film with exposing to light instead of chemical inversion. So steps are: first (bw) developer, inversion (with light), color developer, bleach, fix.

In none of your examples is the reddish cast very obtrusive and in fact in the second example I have often seen stones of that colour anyway used as gravel. I suspect the roof tiles may not be quite the colour we see in the print but do not look annoyingly wrong

It's certainly worth a try if you have Velvia but don't want to waste E6 chemicals

pentaxuser

I think with C-41 color developer, you'll never get a truly accurate result, color-wise.
If you have it, or can get it cheaper than an E-6 kit, ECN-2 color developer will probably get you much closer, given ECN-2 uses CD-3 like E-6.

I know user @BHuij has developed Ektachrome 100D in HC-110 + ECN-2 with good results before.
Heck, even RA-4 color developer would likely work better than C-41, for much the same reason.