Using Silverfast HDR to speed up bulk scans

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jonmon6691

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Wondering if anyone else has a similar workflow, but I recently started using the HDR program in addition to SF 9SE.

My original problem was that scanning 16 frames (4 strips of 4 frames on 35mm) was taking a ridiculously long time to set up and a ridiculously long time to scan. In order to get the cropping right so that Negafix works properly, I had to zoom in to each frame to fine tune the crop, but SF insists on doing a pre-scan each and every time. It takes about 45 seconds per frame to do this, then the actual scan at 2400 dpi takes about 135 seconds per frame. To scan 3 rolls of film would take almost five and a half hours of being more or less actively engaged in the process of scanning. (45+135)*36*3/60/60

When I got my first half-frame camera I knew something had to change. I was not going to wait around for silverfast to muck around with previews and cropping on a 72 frame roll.

The system I have now seems to work ok, but I don't have all the kinks worked out so if someone out there has been down this road before, I'm interested to hear what you've seen. Note: I use an Epson v750

Step 1: Load the scanner like normal, in my case I load 16 frames or sometime less depending on remainders etc.

Step 2: Put Silver fast into 64bit HDRi mode. Prescan, move the scan frame to cover all the frames at once.

Step 3: Fire off the scan, in my tests this took only 50s per frame at 2400dpi!! I'll come back to this, but during this time, I work on the cropping and negative conversion in HDR.

Step 4: Reload the holder with the next 4 strips and fire off another scan

Step 5: While the next scan is running, open the last one in HDR. Make frames, set up negafix, set up iSRD, etc.

Step 6: Run Batch process in HDR, which outputs the final scans.

Issues:
  • iSRD seems less effective, some of the bigger dust spots have a clearly visible halo around them, I'm wondering if the registration of the infrared layer could have more opportunity for misalignment than with the slower, smaller individual scans
  • Silverfast is a buggy piece of s*&$. Sometimes SF 9 will spend the full time scanning, then output a completley garbage file. I haven't been doing this too long now, but usually happens once in a scanning session or so. This is especially painful because there are a few minutes of processing after the scan finishes and I'd like to use this time to swap negatives. But if the output file is trash I have to make a note which strips have to be re-scanned all over again and just move on.
  • Silverfast HDR is a buggy piece of s*$%. If you don't completley close the program between batch processing's, it will just output garbage and the interface will soft-lock. I nearly lost it when I'd just spent a good 10 solid minutes lining up frames for 32 half frame photos when this happened. Had to re-do the whole thing.
I think Vuescan can basically do this natively since you can use a file as input instead of a scanner, but I'm not that familiar with the program so I'm not sure it would work the same way. But at least you wouldn't have to shell out for another tool.

tl:dr: I got my scanning time down from 175s per frame, down to 50s per frame at 2400dpi on an Epson v750
 

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Silverfast is “different” and custom contoured for every different model of scanner, so perhaps my experience is different than yours. Have used the entire Ai top level Archiving Suite for years, the Nikon 9000 Coolscan build, and it’s not buggy at all, hasn’t been for years. Not an intuitive software to use, I’ll readily grant that much, but it’s not buggy at all, at least on Macs which always have the current OS, it’s not.
In my hands it’s worked better than Vuescan, if I’m looking for the absolute best quality scans, but Vuescan has been quicker, usually, and seems to satisfy many people. And it’s cheaper and the customer service is better.
 
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Silverfast is “different” and custom contoured for every different model of scanner, so perhaps my experience is different than yours. Have used the entire Ai top level Archiving Suite for years, the Nikon 9000 Coolscan build, and it’s not buggy at all, hasn’t been for years. Not an intuitive software to use, I’ll readily grant that much, but it’s not buggy at all, at least on Macs which always have the current OS, it’s not.
In my hands it’s worked better than Vuescan, if I’m looking for the absolute best quality scans, but Vuescan has been quicker, usually, and seems to satisfy many people. And it’s cheaper and the customer service is better.

Thanks for that, I'll reach out to their support about the glitches I'm having. Didn't come to mind since its so rare for a company to offer any support at all these days.

You can also use the job manager if you the ai Studio. So you don't have to load every photo in HDR...

I have Silver fast 9 SE, but don't have ai studio. I'm not sure exactly what you're saying it can do though. The nice thing about the workflow I've got now is that I can do two things at once, the scanner can be busy while I'm using the other program to crop and invert
 
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Vuescan makes bulk scanning a piece of cake. Enable "scan from preview". Do a preview scan at whatever resolution you want the scan to be. When you get the preview scan you can just move the crop box from frame to frame and hit save. Even numbers them for you. Couldn't be easier. You can even tweak each frame as you go if you want. You can also scan the files as raw then go back later if you want to do that.
 
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