Using fish tank chlorine remover as fixer

nmp · Dec 7, 2022

Donald Qualls said:
I don't know for certain, but it most likely has to do with the leftover sodium or chloride ions in the solution. One or another of those probably winds with dissolved silver ions in a way that ties up thiosulfate more than would be the case in a straight ammonium thiosulfate fixer. Adding sodium thiocyanate might help here (both in fixing speed and capacity), but that's very definitely not a supermarket chemical.

Instead of ammonium chloride, you can probably use ammonium bicarb (also known as baker's ammonia) which will give ammonium thio plus sodium carbonate. No chloride.

One of these days I will experiment with it.

:Niranjan.

Alan Johnson · Dec 7, 2022

PE commented on why ammonium ions provide a rapid fixer:

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eli griggs · Dec 8, 2022

Donald Qualls said:
Maybe not supermarket -- maybe Big Box store. Janitor in a Drum was weak HCl, but at home improvement stores it's sold as "muriatic acid" for cleaning concrete. Not sure what strength, however, which is somewhat critical in this case (might be sufficient to manage the solution pH if you have a pH meter).

It's used in at least one job, that of stump remover.

It's used to remove calcium, etc from around raw gemstones, crystals, by rock hounds.

It's also used to clean concrete, builders mortar, exterior wall washing, etc

My last bottle came from Home Depot and was inexpensive for a gallon or so

Using fish tank chlorine remover as fixer

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