• Welcome to Photrio!
    Registration is fast and free. Join today to unlock search, see fewer ads, and access all forum features.
    Click here to sign up

Use of sodium citrate tribasic

High Street

A
High Street

  • 0
  • 0
  • 11
Plato's Philosophy.

A
Plato's Philosophy.

  • 2
  • 2
  • 85

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
201,869
Messages
2,831,441
Members
100,992
Latest member
bob531
Recent bookmarks
0

ongarine

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Nov 9, 2003
Messages
155
Location
Avesa-Verona
Format
Large Format
I have a gift from a chemist friend: a container for about 1 Kg. of sodium citrate tribasic, he said that maybe I could use it in photo formulas.
Until now I have not find any formulas with sodium citrate tribasic.
Some of the photo chemists in APUG have some suggestions?
Thanks
 

sanking

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Mar 26, 2003
Messages
5,437
Location
Greenville,
Format
Large Format
I have a gift from a chemist friend: a container for about 1 Kg. of sodium citrate tribasic, he said that maybe I could use it in photo formulas.
Until now I have not find any formulas with sodium citrate tribasic.
Some of the photo chemists in APUG have some suggestions?
Thanks


I use sodum citrate tribasic. 20% solution, as a developer for kallitype, but I add a small amount of citric acid to make the solution acidic.

Sandy
 

dancqu

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Sep 7, 2002
Messages
3,649
Location
Willamette V
Format
Medium Format
I use sodum citrate tribasic. 20% solution,
as a developer for kallitype, ... Sandy

I think it must be quite alkaline. Not so much
though as tribasic phosphate. How about it as
the or a activator and or for ph buffering? And
what about sodium acetate? I wonder more
use of it is not made. Dan
 

sanking

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Mar 26, 2003
Messages
5,437
Location
Greenville,
Format
Large Format
I think it must be quite alkaline. Not so much
though as tribasic phosphate. How about it as
the or a activator and or for ph buffering? And
what about sodium acetate? I wonder more
use of it is not made. Dan


In fact sodium citrate tribasic is not all that alkaline. The supply I get from www.thechemistrystore.com mixes up at about pH 7.0 - 7.5. I add just a few spoonfulls of citric acid per liter of a 20$% solution and the pH drops to around 6.0.

Sandy King
 

Kirk Keyes

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Jun 17, 2004
Messages
3,234
Location
Portland, OR
Format
4x5 Format
I think it must be quite alkaline.

Sodium; weak acid
citrate; weak base

Add them together, not a very acidic or basic compound.
 

Jordan

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
581
Location
Toronto, Can
Format
Multi Format
Sodium; weak acid
citrate; weak base

Add them together, not a very acidic or basic compound.

Actually, sodium citrate is the salt of a weak acid (citric acid) and a strong base (sodium hydroxide), and ordinarily solutions of salts like these are fairly alkaline due to 'hydrolysis' of the anion. I think the difference here is that only the first pKa of citric acid is "acid-like" -- each subsequent pKa is about 1.2-1.4 log units weaker.
 
OP
OP

ongarine

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Nov 9, 2003
Messages
155
Location
Avesa-Verona
Format
Large Format
Could it be use as activator or......I will conserve as a memory of a passed era: the wet photography process?
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom