We shouldn't be relying on judges.
Robert Adams has been mentioned quite a bit on this website lately. Here's something from one of his essays:
"For every Atget, Stieglitz, Weston, or Brandt who remain visionary to the end, there is an Ansel Adams who, after a period of extraordinary creativity, lapses into formula."
Sorry for the thread drift. This is a famous observation by a very perceptive and highly respected intellectual (not to mention photographer).
But just for the record, while it might well be true in terms of Ansel Adams's aesthetic growth (or lack thereof), Ansel Adams became a passionate defender of the environment. It wasn't a role he actually sought, but was as much thrust upon him by the fame and nature of his photographs.
The very world Robert Adams, through his own great photography, mourns as lost is one that Ansel Adams, in his final decades, sought to protect through public advocacy.
Avedon... Warhol. Just like Starbucks and McDonald's; you can't round a street corner without seeing another one of the damn things, or maybe three of four in a row. I'm all for dedicated museums in each case, the bigger the better. Send all their work there, cause I'm sick of seeing it everywhere else. On the other hand, I grew up right next to Yosemite, and never saw a real AA print in my life till I was over 30 and already exhibiting my own work. I had seen a number of real Edward Weston ones early on.
I agree with you. Ansel Adams was quite the environmentalist, so much so that one could argue that his passion really shifted to that and away from growing aesthetically.
But even that had unintended consequences. He was known to bemoan the number of visitors that Yosemite drew every year, even though, for many, it was his pictures that drew them there in the first place. (Unintended consequences can be a real bitch).
To this point, and to the point about his work becoming cliched, he and Virginia wrote a book (The Illustrated Guide to Yosemite) in which there was a section where he described where to stand to take pictures like his, what time(s) of day to stand there, and what filters to bring with you! You too can make your very own Ansel Adams lookalike: just fill the tank with gas, wait in line to get into the park, set up your tripod next to that person over there, point your cameras in the same direction, and...
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To this point, and to the point about his work becoming cliched, he and Virginia wrote a book (The Illustrated Guide to Yosemite) in which there was a section where he described where to stand to take pictures like his, what time(s) of day to stand there, and what filters to bring with you! You too can make your very own Ansel Adams lookalike: just fill the tank with gas, wait in line to get into the park, set up your tripod next to that person over there, point your cameras in the same direction, and...
Brett Weston and Ansel Adams used to accuse each other of being Wagnerian, from what I've read. And you gotta admit, you can almost hear Ride of the Valkyries playing somewhere when you look at a lot of those Adams pictures....
But AA had deep respect for his subject matter. Yeah, sometimes it came out a little too theatrically printed for some of us; ...
Don't think he'd participate....
I wonder how would Joe Rosenthal stand in a copyright case today?
As for Brett, not an atom of Wagner in him. He used solid black in a graphic abstract sense, and did it better than anyone, petty much pioneered it, in fact. When I think of Wagner on steroids, performing under a rococo ceiling, it's more Barnbaum who comes to mind. Of course, he worked in several styles himself; but there are those images which are simply over the top for me. I don't like it when something is toooo obvious.
This copyright business is a very interesting topic indeed.
It has got me thinking of the iconic photograph taken on Mount Suribochi, Iwo Jima during WW2.
Taken by photographer Joe Rosenthal, it shows six US Marines raising a pole with the American Flag on it.
The image is thought to be the inspiration for the Marine Corp War Memorial at Arlington, Virginia.
Hollywood recreated it in a WW2 war film film about Iwo Jima.
And we see three firefighters at Ground Zero in a similar pose.
In no way do I wish to detract from the selfless bravery and deeds of these people.
I wonder how would Joe Rosenthal stand in a copyright case today?
I had no idea who this artist is. So out of curiosity I asked AI to give me "highly detailed painting of Mount Fuji by Yayoi Kusama" and I was quite impressed by what I saw:
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Is this derivative art? Is it art?
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