Two wrongs make a right?

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Had a roll of 120 Kodak Tmax 100 from my Rolleiflex exposed at ISO 100. Only developer available was Diafine. Too lazy to mix up something else I decided to give the Diafine a try. Figured the negs would be dense but they weren't of anything earth shattering. So after a long, long drive and late at night I developed the film. I had been developing single rolls of 35mm film in Diafine so I quickly poured 8 oz of developer A into the tank. Poured the A soup out, poured the B soup in. Finally dawned on me that I should be using16 oz. 40 years of developing film and it's still easy to make stupid mistakes. Felt like sleepy Joe.

Bottom line though they came out great.
 
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I simply took it to mean that "sleepy Joe" in the context of the OP's quote "So after a long, long drive and late at night I developed the film" was either a phrase coined by the OP to refer to someone who was not quite thinking straight due to being tired due it being late and a long drive. Joe is a common U.S. word to describe a person as in "an ordinary Joe", isn't it ?

Maybe my "politics" radar isn't keenly enough tuned

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pentaxuser said:
Joe is a common U.S. word to describe a person as in "an ordinary Joe", isn't it ?

Maybe my "politics" radar isn't keenly enough tuned

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American English, indeed, has a few terms that includes "Joe", which are not intended to refer to any specific person. Generally "Joe" is used with another descriptive term, such as:

Average Joe - Wikipedia

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Joe Shmoe - Wikipedia

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G.I. Joe - Wikipedia

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Joe Cool

Joe Cool is one of Snoopy's alter-egos, which first appeared in the Peanuts comic strip from May 27, 1971. As Joe Cool, Snoopy pretends to be a college student. To become Joe Cool, the beagle simply puts on a pair of sunglasses, leans against a wall, and says his name is Joe Cool. As the name...
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Ordinary Joe - Wikipedia

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“Sleepy Joe” is a recent phrase generally attributed to former US President Trump as a derogatory description of the current US President Biden.
So, yea Pentaxuser, your “politics radar” is fuzzy.
 

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koraks said:
please refrain from making politically charged comments.
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ditto - from a moderator's perspective.
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btaylor said:
“Sleepy Joe” is a recent phrase generally attributed to former US President Trump as a derogatory description of the current US President Biden.
So, yea Pentaxuser, your “politics radar” is fuzzy.
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Yes it may well be. It was just that in the context of the circumstances that the OP described as the kind he found himself in, the phrase "sleepy Joe" did seem to describe anyone who had driven too long., was processing late at night and was too tired to think straight but wasn't designed to inject the dreaded "politics" into the thread by referring to anyone in particular


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Wow, didn't think a small joke would lead to so much discussion. Thought I might get replies on my "two wrongs". And yes it was a reference to the President of the United States. It's been pretty much confirmed (Even by Joe) that he needs to get up early and go to bed early. I'm almost 73 the reference was mentioned to mean I shouldn't be doing anything too important after dinner. Really didn't mean to start a political discussion. And I didn't think a fact is derogatory. https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html
 
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OK, thanks for clarifying @beemermark! Best be cautious with comments like these and if possible, use an alternative that doesn't carry a political connotation. Let's get back to your original question/observation, now, shall we? No harm done as far as I'm concerned.

On that note, your experience reminded me of a sheet of TMX I once overexposed by about 6 stops - but I developed it normally. It yielded a printable negative; somewhat flat and with 'excellent' shadow detail, of course. But surprisingly usable!
 

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Maybe from now and until November or beyond, we need to view any "political" reference, especially one that involves the use of the name Joe, however innocently, as totally off limits

We need to heed anything vaguely political the way Bill Shankly, the late manager of Liverpool Football club, did. Football was an intense game for him. So much so that when he was asked if it was a matter of life and death, he replied " No, it is much more serious than that

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Actually, dear PU, it simply may be an indication that humor/humour, or attempts at the aforesaid, can be an ineffective way to make a point. Note how it distracted from any valid on-topic interchange in the present literary intercourse!

Humor can be a funny thing; its not always the same to everyone.

And back on topic….glad the photography was successful. Proves just how resilient it can be.
 
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Based upon personal experience, this is where a true inversion agitation method helps. I goofed my quantity a few months back with some 4x5 frames and I managed to salvage them. ( I'm not entirely sure they were worth salvaging, but that's beside the point)
I think any version of semi-stand or true stand development in this case would have been a 2/3rds frame situation fort me.
 

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Two wrongs dont make a right, but three rights do make a left!
 
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