Tungsten Slide Films

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Hi Guys-

I am well aware that Ektachrome 64T has been discontinued but whether or not Fuji's T64 has been or not seems to be up in the air as it seemed to be unavailable then available again. Anyone have an ideas on the true availability of T64?
 
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As of right now, B&H is only listing 120.
 

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Glazer's in Seattle has lots of 35mm Fuji T64 in its "discontinued film" bins in its film refrigerators
 

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I understand it is definitely no longer available in the UK (I've tried all the usual main mail order sources),
but I don't know conclusively if this is a result of no more being made, or importing decisions by Fuji UK.
There was similar confusion earlier this year with Astia...."Discontinued" in the UK, but it later transpired that is it still available from Europe and in other parts of the world. I rather fear that this might not be the case with T64, though.
 

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My guess is that like EPP and EPR, they will be available for awhile yet. EPR was cancelled here long before it was finally cancelled in Japan (I continued to buy it from thee for awhile). EPP was cancelled over a year ago, and it's still readily available, at a higher price. I like Tungsten balanced film because of its "movie still" look, but 64 is honestly a bit too slow for me. I have about 20 rolls left of T64 and EPY combined and not sure if I'm getting more.
 

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ECN-II

A bit off-topic, but related:

Did you ever find a lab to process ECN-II? Plenty of tungsten film of that type still.
 
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There is a lab here. It's just a matter of me actually ordering some short pieces of the film and rolling it up.
 

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There is a lab here. It's just a matter of me actually ordering some short pieces of the film and rolling it up.
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Will they process short still camera rolls for other people, too?

If you buy a short end of, say, 500T to cut down and it's too much for you, I may be interested in 20-50 or so feet of it...if I can get it processed that is.

I shot some of that K-25 recently I bought from you; looks pretty good.
 

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FYI, B&H now lists Kodak 5218 (Vision2 500T) as being available in 35mm (200') for $155, special order. I'm not sure if it's the right perforation...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/465274-USA/Kodak_8937906_135mm_Vision2_500T_5218.html

Personally I'm interested in the faster films like 500T because with an f/2 or faster lens you can actually handhold with them indoors.

Problem now though is that with a lot of newer indoor lights being fluorescent, tungsten balance might not be right anymore.

But if that lab will do it right, and it's not too expensive to develop, I'm in...

Just that 200' is way too much for one guy (speaking for myself here).

Reply here and/or or PM me with the info...
 
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AFAIK, Fuji announced the discontinuance some time ago, though it is still in stock at many retailers' shops. This speaks to the incredibly low demand for it that caused its discontinuance in the first place. The things that most people used this film for are now done almost entirely with digital cameras. Same story with Pro 800Z, Superia 800, and Superia 1600 (that latter two of which are discontinued, at least as far as I can tell).
 

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Thank you.

For those interested, I contacted this lab recently and spoke with Brad. I explained the situation that we still photographers are in (no more tungsten balanced film available). He told me that they can process short lengths by attaching them to longer pieces, and would be interested in offering such a service for pricing roughly comparable to what we pay for C-41 develop only.

Anyone interested in this, I recommend emailing CineLab to tell them about your interest. I also mentioned the possibility that some people might even be interested in using 16mm in short lengths as well, though I'm no expert on that (Minox?).
 

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I think that sounds like a great idea. I do believe that they would have something special if they did that; I've yet to see movie film processed as it is supposed to be, and for that reason it hasn't interested me. But to be able to do it right.. I'm interested.

The 2nd part of this would be who is willing to take the long rolls and cut them down? A joint effort might be in order for that to be realistic.

I'm going to email them and express my interest, I encourage others to do the same.

General & Printing Questions - chandler@cinelab.com
 
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If enough of us got together and were interested, living near this lab, I think I might be willing to cut up a roll and help us use it..
 

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If enough of us got together and were interested, living near this lab, I think I might be willing to cut up a roll and help us use it..
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A promising idea, Ektagraphic. What type of film is everyone most interested in? I'm mostly interested in Vision 500T. Not quite near you , but also not too far away considering US mail.
 

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+1 for Vision 500T. I think the obvious appeal is fast & tungsten, something new to me!

But for the sake of comparison, what other films are there? Is there Fuji as well? I'll check it out...

I emailed the lab and mentioned how this could honestly create a new market, albeit a niche w/in a niche, but I know there are people who want to use movie film and have had the idea, but when they learn that the process is different and so forth, the archival integrity is jeopardized, etc., it loses its appeal fast.

But the first 35mm shooters did this, so it's kind of cool to bring the idea back.

edit: damn, the more I look, the more I salivate.... 50D anyone?! Kodak's Velvia? hahaha... this could open up a whole new world.
 
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holmburgers said:
but when they learn that the process is different and so forth, the archival integrity is jeopardized, etc., it loses its appeal fast.
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I am not aware of any archival stability issues with ECN-II when processed in the intended chmistry. Older color films (whether ECN, early ECN-II, C-22, early C-41, E4, and early E6 ones) clearly had archival issues. But I was under the impression that these have mostly been solved in today's films and chemistry. I doubt you would find your images gone in 30 years. We have some old ECN-II negatives that were taken of me as a baby, and there are still images on them. Again, I doubt this is an issue worth considering.
 

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No, sorry, I must've caused confusion. I mean that doing ECN-II film in C-41 jeopardizes the archival stability. And that's the way that a lot of cine-still shooters have to go.

But doing ECN-II in the intended process if very appealing
 

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Having a fast, tungsten balanced film is the biggest thing I miss in still photography vs. motion picture.

The Vision 500T looks great.

And Cinelab are highly recommended. They are a rare resource for the motion picture community -- very professional and reasonably priced, even for high-end processes like a Rank Cintel telecine (film to video transfer.) I have used them for Super 8 with Vision 500T and wrote about them for two different filmmaking magazines. Good people, good quality.

If Cinelab are willing to process short snips of ECN-II then I will be excited to shoot some 500T. Seems like a no-brainer for both indoor event photography and low light street photography.
 
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All film should switch to being either ECN-2 or C-41 ...I think 500T would be the best choice since many of the situations we would use tungsten for would work best with a higher ISO..
 
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