I would sign. But not everyone comes to APUG. There are probably a lot of photographers who don't even know about the TXP discontinuations yet.
Now that TXP 320 has been Kodachromed, what do you all think of the possibility of starting an online petition asking Kodak to manufacture Tri-x 400 in 220 format? My thinking is since they manufacture it 120 format, that their may be a chance, however small it may be, of persuading them to broaden it to 220 as well.
So what do you guys think? Is this a feasible concept, or wishful thinking?
Jamusu.
It's been done.
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
Ah... found a thread about it, but the link to the petition is gone. Ah well.
Curt.I don't think any petition or fight will bring any film back when Kodak has made up its mind to discontinue it. The reality is it's going to be gone and that's it.
The moving finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy piety nor wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
Nor all thy tears wash out a word of it.
—The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
I don't think any petition or fight will bring any film back when Kodak has made up its mind to discontinue it. The reality is it's going to be gone and that's it.
I do think it [petition] is a good idea. There are some who think 220 B&W has a good sized following and film companies are missing the boat not providing a B&W film in this format.
There are almost 39,000 members here, should be able to get a fair idea of how many people are interested in buying 220 B&W. Think 10% will sign up?
Correct. The only petition that matters is the one where you "petition" the marketplace with your coin, by BUYING THE FILM IN SUFFICIENT QUANTITIES TO MAKE IT A PROFITABLE PRODUCT.
Why in the hell would Kodak reply to a petition drive by reprieving a discontinued film line? What's in it for Kodak? It goes like this:
1. Discontinue a poorly-selling film beloved of a few;
2. Endure online scourging and abuse, along with plenty of managerial advice and manufacturing pseudo-expertise;
3. Reprieve condemned emulsion. Bask in temporary PR glow resulting from thy mercy;
4. Enjoy transient bump in film sales as spooked regular users buy their year's worth of film in two days; and as curious non-users of the product buy a few rolls to see what all the fuss is about. Continue to lose money, albeit more slowly;
5. Watch as surge subsides and sales are now even worse than baseline, since everyone's stocked up; and since previous non-users get reacquainted with the reasons they never bought the stuff in the first place. Lose money more quickly;
6. Re-condemn the film, and be flailed like an oarsman in a slave galley in high-traffic online forums dedicated to film photography. Hear calls for your corporate demise, since you've refused to make that which people didn't (sufficiently) want until you no longer made it. Count money lost during reprieve. Explain to shareholders why any of this made sense.
I absolutely love these OMG-They've-Discontinued-My-Favorite-Film threads, which reliably pop up like daffodils every time some beloved emulsion is dispatched to Valhalla, to the dismay of both its users. Interesting windows into human nature, these threads are, and the insatiable need people have to feel like they individually count in the universe, or have some control.
BUY WHAT YOU LIKE, USE IT, and TELL A FRIEND. The marketplace will take care of the rest.
You must be speaking of your human nature or lack there of. I find it curious that many of your post's are laced with negativity and a misplaced view of elitism that you have placed upon yourself as though you are some type of "Quasi GOD of Photography". Tell me..is your soul truly as miserable as your writings would suggest?
Jamusu.
I'll write a letter because that always seems to have more impact but if anyone is emailing Kodak can be spoken with at Kprotraditional@kodak.com or 1-800-242-2424 option 19.
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