Toyo VX125: tripod mounting block compatible with Arca Swiss QR plates?

[GLS]

I am currently researching possible options for my first foray into the world of 4x5 large format, and have recently discovered the Toyo VX125. The light, compact design seems quite ingenious, and would be near-ideal for my intended uses (mainly landscape and architecture, with possibly some simple portraiture) whilst maintaining a high degree of rigidity and movement precision. The restrictions on rail length with the default setup shouldn't be an issue as I can't see myself using lenses longer than 300mm.

My one possible concern is with the tripod mounting block. I use an Arca Swiss tripod head and quick release system, so would need to replace the default quick release plate the camera is provided with. I assume I could just use some form of Arca Swiss universal QR plate with a 1/4" screw, but the camera manual does not provide information as to whether there are additional holes for locating pins to prevent twisting of the plate, or provide dimensions for the block so that a QR plate with an appropriate lip could be used as an alternative anti-twist solution.

I realise that this camera is not exactly common, but if anyone here has any experience with it and could chime in I would be very grateful, as I am seriously considering this camera as a good all-round option.

Thanks.

 

[RAS]

Hi GLS. I've just started using a Toyo VX125 after long experience with a Cambo Wide DS and 4x5 back, which is both compact and very rigid. I was looking to supplement it with longer lenses. The VX125 impressed me for its compact size, reasonable weight, quality of construction and amount of geared rise (70mm) and shift (30/40mm)

The VX125 and VX125B have the extendable monorail that collapses to 125mm. The attached tripod block is a nicely machined plate with dimensions 75.8mm x 44mm and thickness 5.5mm (measured using calipers). The long edges are bevelled upwards. There are two big rectangular holes in the plate for weight reduction but no specific ant-twist pins or holes.

In his 1997 review on The Large Format Page, Stewart Ethier states that he replaced the supplied Saunders quick release plate with an Arca universal plate to fit his Arca ballhead.

Before my recent trip, I attached a 100mm-long Benro plate (PU100) to the foot plate, firmly. During six weeks in Morocco and Tunisia I carried the camera almost daily from hotel room to historic sites over my shoulder at the end of a Gitzo 1325 CF tripod and a big Benro B5 ballhead. Despite this treatment, I had no trouble with the camera twisting.

I ended up owning two VX125s, so one may be available if you are interested. Note that the VX125 in standard configuration will extend to accept a 300mm non-telephoto lens or 400mm telephoto lens; a common limit for compact cameras. The rail and bellows can be replaced for longer lenses.

Good luck with your intended purchase.

Rod

 

[GLS]

Many thanks @RAS for the information.

It is reassuring to know that you didn't get twisting issues with the Benro plate, as most of the universal Arca style plates I've seen just have a similar design with rubberised grip pads. I did think with such a relatively light and compact design it was unlikely to be an issue, but nonetheless I like foolproof setups where twisting is impossible rather than unlikely.

I also appreciate the potential offer of a sale. I am still weighing up options at the moment, but may contact you in the future. Just out of interest, what sort of price would you be looking for?

Many thanks once again.

Gabe

 

[RAS]

Gabe, you're welcome. I took a long while myself considering alternatives. Ten years with the Cambo Wide DS accustomed me to strength, rigidity, compactness, geared riise, fall and shift, and importantly, assurance that the film plane remains parallel to the lens plane.

I was offered a Sinar X at a decent price. It ticked most of the boxes but each standard alone weighed as much as the whole VX125, and although I'm strong, I knew it just wouldnt be practical.

Send me an email so that we can continue the discussion regarding a possible transaction in private.

And Happy New Year!

Rod