What you wrote seemed a little strange so I downloaded the manual from https://www.butkus.org/chinon/toyo-view/toyo-view.htm. Have you set the infinity stops correctly? Use the infinity stops to position the standard, not the scale.
Thanks for such a quick reply Dan.
The camera has the infinity stops already installed. I bought i used and the person selling it says that it is all set up for the 150 mm. I saw the statement about the infinity stops in the manual, but wasn't sure about the exact way to check for their placement. So if I understand correctly you are saying that I should not lock the lens at the 150 mark on the reference scale but should use the infinity stops instead?
OK. I guess that YouTube video on setting up the Toyo needs an edit as it specifically mentioned the 150 mark. But since I focus using the ground glass I read in another thread on this forum that some people don't use the infinity stops, especially if they are using multiple lenses. They "estimate the initial position" for the lens in use and then fine tune position and focus using the image on the ground glass. Which is a little bit like what I ended up doing in order to see a focused image. I will have to check which of the 3 infinity stop pairs that are mounted on the yoke works for the 150 lens.Yes, exactly, that's what they're for.
Think of it as any boxed camera and lens attached where lens will have it infinity marker at one end of helical run and shortest distance at the other. If you don't have FS set at infinity marker (bed retracted fully) then you will lose either shortest distance achievable limited by bellows draw, or will not be able to focus at infinity if FS is moved fwd of the infinity stop (with bed retracted). For closest focusing achievable move FS to front end of the bed as this is governed by bellows length, so to get bellows go as long as camera limits allow, FS needs to be front end (with bed retracted). Of course in this setting infinity focus is not possible.
Think of infinity stops as "quick stops" for easy setup in general field photography where focusing at infinity is usually in play. These are not critical to have as when you find out infinity focus is not possible, then FS is too far ahead of film plane and needs to be moved back. And when FS is not correctly set up for infinity position, then you will just lose some closer focusing ability, which again can be simply adjusted on the fly by moving FS on rail more forward.
When closest focusing as in macro is required, then stops must be out of the way to get the longest bellows draw possible (if that is needed of course).
The focal length of a normal lens is the distance from the focal point of the optical assembly to the film plane / ground glass. That focal point may shift a bit depending on the design of the lens assembly, usually represented by the focal flange distance. Using a Schneider Symar-S 150mm f/5.6 as an example, depending on the shutter, the FFD is anywhere from 141mm to 143.5mm-- so if you set any of those lenses to 150mm, you've exceeded the distance for focusing at infinity.
The manual has a section on setting the infinity stops correctly for your lens.
I use the reference scale on the focus bed only as a starting point when focussing, often locking the lens a bit short of it's actual focus length. Then i use the ground glass to focus more precise, moving the bed forward as fat as necessary. I often use a bit of back tilt in combination with front shift, which makes the infinity stops of this camera more or less useless anyway. And when making close-ups i lock the front panel at a posiition where i think i will be able to achieve focus. It takes a bit of experience, but after a while it becomes second nature.
I too got started large format recently after picking up a Toyo 45AII. I don't even bother using the scale or infinity stops. I just move the lens bed forward while looking through viewing hood, once it comes into relative focus I back it up a bit and lock it into place. After that I use the focus knobs to bring it into general focus and then critical focus.
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