To those of us who “camera scan“ negs...

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wiltw said:
...Folks like at Zeiss use the term 'bokeh' correctly, but that does not fix the abuse by others.
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This thread is too much . I was just curious as to why the Zeiss folks properly use the term bokeh while abused by others. Would you please elaborate? Isn't bokeh just bokeh?
 

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Apparently so. Also, apparently, Zeiss are the only people who use the word correctly.
 

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JL Nims said:
This thread is too much . I was just curious as to why the Zeiss folks properly use the term bokeh while abused by others. Would you please elaborate? Isn't bokeh just bokeh?
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'Bokeh' is the characteristic of the out-of-focus, bokeh is 'pleasing' or 'abrupt'...an adjective describing what is out of focus

'Bokeh' is not the 'out-of-focus' area itself, which is how it is mostly used wrongly.

"How does ZEISS define Bokeh – An Interview with Dr. Stefan Ballmann​
Are you confused about what bokeh really means? In this interview, Dr. Stefan Ballmann talks about the different characteristics of the out-of-focus areas in an image and how and why lenses differ in the quality of this bokeh or blur."​
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The misuse of the term results in forum posts with thread subject like "how to get bokeh?"
 

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Boke is a Japanese word (and a noun) meaning "blur". The term Bokeh was adopted to distinguish the "out of focus area" and "out of focus aesthetic" from "motion blur".

B&H credits an article from 1997 from Photo Techniques magazine, specifically, Mike Johnston. Interestingly, the authors are listed as Carl Weese, John Kennerdell, and Oren Grad.

So if you want a definitive answer on what bokeh means, perhaps we have our own expert.
 

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PFFFFT! What do those authors know?
 
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Anyone wishing to offload a Hasselblad Flextight X5?

I’ve got $10 waiting burning a hole in my pocket.

Add a Leica M and I’ll double my stake.
 
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