TMAX P3200

Harry Lime · May 27, 2018

Yesterday I walked into a store in 2018 and bought a few fresh rolls of TMAX P3200.

I'm still looking at those boxes in disbelief.

It's not cheap at $10 per roll, but I'm not a spray and pray kind of shooter. Obviously I wish it was cheaper, but given the choice between paying a little extra and not having it at all, I'll pay up. Hopefully enough people feel the same way and we'll have this film around for many years to come.

Kudos to Kodak for doing this.

PS: Kodachrome...

LeftCoastKid · May 27, 2018

My sentiments exactly! Kodachrome? Consigned to history, I'm afraid. Ektachrome? Still waiting, somewhat anxiously. Now down to 49 rolls of, deep frozen, PB 01/14 E100G, 20 rolls of PB 01/14 E100VS in 35mm, and 14 propacks of PB 01/14 E100G in 120. Exhaustion of 120 E100G will bring an end to 39 years of medium format color work...

trendland · May 27, 2018

LeftCoastKid said:
My sentiments exactly! Kodachrome? Consigned to history, I'm afraid. Ektachrome? Still waiting, somewhat anxiously. Now down to 49 rolls of, deep frozen, PB 01/14 E100G, 20 rolls of PB 01/14 E100VS in 35mm, and 14 propacks of PB 01/14 E100G in 120. Exhaustion of 120 E100G will bring an end to 39 years of medium format color work...

Indeed that was a little hard time to so many. I remember same period Fuji discontinued their amateuric E6 film: Sensia in ISO 200/400 I did not so much wonder about. But they ALSO discontinued Sensia 100....??? The conceptation was obviously to stop the last cheap E6 film. And higher prices to remaining professionell E6 films. Since that we can see double - tribble pricing.The ironic in history is (ALSO caused from general high pricing to films today) We will see the come back of Kodak E6. To that same reason (highest price niveau) we have back Tmax3200.
with regards
PS: the one thing we want (Spezial films) the other thing we have to do for (pay for it )......

trendland · May 27, 2018

Harry Lime said:
Yesterday I walked into a store in 2018 and bought a few fresh rolls of TMAX P3200.

I'm still looking at those boxes in disbelief.

It's not cheap at $10 per roll, but I'm not a spray and pray kind of shooter. Obviously I wish it was cheaper, but given the choice between paying a little extra and not having it at all, I'll pay up. Hopefully enough people feel the same way and we'll have this film around for many years to come.

Kudos to Kodak for doing this.

PS: Kodachrome...

I remember an internet dealer you may got it for less (If you order 10 rolls) - then the shipping cost is not that point and you may have it at USD 8,- a roll. If you add the shipping $6,- it is a little cheaper than USD 10,-
with regards
PS : But it still expensive - indeed. ...PSS : If you may have spoken about such ( future ) pricing to simple bw film during the 80th they might have taken you into a kind of hospital (such wich have closed areas) and they had never let you out (till today - so in 2018 you would have been a free man again....)

DREW WILEY · May 27, 2018

I tried a roll. Didn't see much difference between TMZ and sacrificing one step of shadow value using TMY. Kodak claims the actual speed of TMZ is 1000 anyway, and not 3200, if you read the "fine print" in the Tech Sheet. So 800 works for me.

ericdan · May 27, 2018

Harry Lime said:
Yesterday I walked into a store in 2018 and bought a few fresh rolls of TMAX P3200.

I'm still looking at those boxes in disbelief.

It's not cheap at $10 per roll, but I'm not a spray and pray kind of shooter. Obviously I wish it was cheaper, but given the choice between paying a little extra and not having it at all, I'll pay up. Hopefully enough people feel the same way and we'll have this film around for many years to come.

Kudos to Kodak for doing this.

PS: Kodachrome...

P3200 is not expensive! It costs as much as it cost when it was discontinued in 2012. Taking inflation into consideration it is now actually cheaper. At B&H it's actually cheaper than Delta3200.
I still can't believe we have it back.

Poisson Du Jour · May 28, 2018

ericdan said:
P3200 is not expensive!

That's true. When a box of film costs you $26.40 a roll, then consider using the term expensive.

Harry Lime · May 28, 2018

DREW WILEY said:
I tried a roll. Didn't see much difference between TMZ and sacrificing one step of shadow value using TMY. Kodak claims the actual speed of TMZ is 1000 anyway, and not 3200, if you read the "fine print" in the Tech Sheet. So 800 works for me.

I usually shoot P3200 around 1250-1600. For me it's mostly about the tonality and grain. P3200 has a somewhat unique look

My standby high speed combo is TMY400-2 pushed to 1250 and developed in Diafine, which works quite well.

I just checked BH and they have it for $8.99, which is better than my local shop @ $10/roll.
(Delta 3200 @ BH is $9.29).

AgX · May 28, 2018

At the german importer it costs € 7.39 ($ 8.61) versus € 6.99 for the Delta 3200. (all prices include 19%VAT).

M Carter · May 28, 2018

I'm one of those folks who can't stand Delta 3200's grain structure in most cases. When I've wanted a faster film, HP5+ in DDX can look very good out to 1600, and holds very good shadow detail considering it's 2 stops under. That DDX is some impressive stuff.

ericdan · May 29, 2018

M Carter said:
I'm one of those folks who can't stand Delta 3200's grain structure in most cases. When I've wanted a faster film, HP5+ in DDX can look very good out to 1600, and holds very good shadow detail considering it's 2 stops under. That DDX is some impressive stuff.

Have you tried Microphen? I've never tried DD-X as it's just too expensive here and I can't import liquid developers.
Microphen I can import and D3200 looks amazing in Microphen stock, although I need almost 2.5x as long as Ilford recommends.
I've tried D3200 in T-Max developer and absolutely didn't like the grain.

trendland · May 30, 2018

ericdan said:
P3200 is not expensive! It costs as much as it cost when it was discontinued in 2012. Taking inflation into consideration it is now actually cheaper. At B&H it's actually cheaper than Delta3200.
I still can't believe we have it back.

Nice. ..........yeah you realy have forgotten that THIS price in 2012 STILL WAS EXPENSIVE .....but never mind.

with regards

PS : Inflation ? What is THIS ? John Boy Walton made much experience with inflation during the world wide cricis (depresion).....(remember that tv series).
But today? If your dealer would tell you anything about higher pricing, more costs - or he would mention that word
"INFLATION" he is allways in concern of his profit.... (and he meant the increasing costs of his [youngest] girlfriend , his brave wife never should realize......)

trendland · May 30, 2018

Harry Lime said:
I usually shoot P3200 around 1250-1600. For me it's mostly about the tonality and grain. P3200 has a somewhat unique look

My standby high speed combo is TMY400-2 pushed to 1250 and developed in Diafine, which works quite well.

I just checked BH and they have it for $8.99, which is better than my local shop @ $10/roll.
(Delta 3200 @ BH is $9.29).

B&H is allways better isn't it ? May be it will change somewhere in the future.
But (so it is to me) it seams to be like a roule (best pricing) - but (as it is allways) the best pricing has to come from somewhere.
with regards

trendland · May 30, 2018

Poisson Du Jour said:
That's true. When a box of film costs you $26.40 a roll, then consider using the term expensive.

$ 22,90 would also be not as cheap (some others never tryed to realize such costs).....
So we have learned : expensive or cheap are relative terms in concern of experience in the past.
with regards
PS : first pricing to 120 bw film I learned from grandpa somewhere in the 60th.
He stated :"that is too much" as a dealer offered a Kodak film at about $ 0,50 so he bought an other one at $ 0,35 (120bw but I can't say what film this actualy was may be Agfa or Ferrania).
So we may compare this pricing with todays price ? $ 0,50 / $ 10,- well that should have something to do with "inflation"
PS : No absolute secret "girlfriend" can have the result of that costs.....

ericdan · May 30, 2018

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