Hooray! I was notified that the TMax 100 in 120 that I have had on back-order for over a year is being shipped. Now I can see for myself how good or lousy it is in MY darkroom........Regards!
Hooray! I was notified that the TMax 100 in 120 that I have had on back-order for over a year is being shipped. Now I can see for myself how good or lousy it is in MY darkroom........Regards!the only thing that maters is that it is back in stock
all this nonsense about arguing is moot
use it or don't pay the price or don't
I love Kodak products..they have NEVER failed me
have a great day everyone and shoot film!!
best, peter
Depending on format, T Max is 35-40% more expensive than Delta at my local store; and approximately double the price of FP4/HP5. I'm not able to justify that price difference for my work.Even Ilford Delta 100 is cheaper than Kodak film. Higher quality and lower price. That's a hard combo to beat.
Depending on format, T Max is 35-40% more expensive than Delta at my local store; and approximately double the price of FP4/HP5. I'm not able to justify that price difference for my work.
My, it must be nice to still have a local store that sells film, B&W or otherwise! We once had three full service stores and several satellite locations. Then people quit buying film and having it processed as well as doing their own darkroom work (except for a few of us diehards). If we had such a store, I would buy locally also whether Ilford, Kodak, etc.......Regards!Depending on format, T Max is 35-40% more expensive than Delta at my local store; and approximately double the price of FP4/HP5. I'm not able to justify that price difference for my work.
My, it must be nice to still have a local store that sells film, B&W or otherwise!
It is, I can buy 8x10 film off the shelf. That's part of the reason I try and support them as much as I can.
Yes, you can pay 11% more to buy local! You just don't want to and I agree with you 100%. It's the same way folks here keep saying "buy Kodak" and support them. Well, I for one don't buy into that theory. You sell a great product, take good care of your customer and price your products competitively and I'll support you. Otherwise common sense tells me to shop elsewhere. Now, I can buy Ilford HP5+ and FP4+ local for just slightly more than B&H and I do do that on occasion. The only Kodak film I might buy is TMY2. Tmax 100 just never turned my crank (I shoot 120 format so 35mm might be different) and I would rather use Ilford Delta 100 or better yet, Fuji Acros. Just me of course and I'm sure many folks here feel different. Unfortunately I didn't make out very well in this new "tax break" deal to allow me not to think with my wallet. A wise old man told me something once and I'll never forget it.. He said, "One of the things that screws the working mans economy up royal is that there are some folks out there with more money than brains, which tends to drive prices out of reach for the poorer folks". He's right in a way.I have a local store that sells most films, yet I can't justify buying from them because the price is so much higher. With B & H I get an instant 6% price reduction due to no sales tax plus there base price is at least 5% lower. I can't pay 11% more for film just because it is local.
There are many things that go into pricing a product. Cost of labor where it's produced is one. Things are produced cheaper coming from China than the US. How much product you sell is another. More can mean better prices to the consumer. It all depends; there are so many factors. None of the film manufacturers are swimming in profits, especially Kodak Alaris. If people don;t want to buy Kodak because of the price, they can buy alternatives. That's what competition is all about. But, I wouldn't blame "rich" people for the cost of a commodity like film. It's not a Maserati.Yes, you can pay 11% more to buy local! You just don't want to and I agree with you 100%. It's the same way folks here keep saying "buy Kodak" and support them. Well, I for one don't buy into that theory. You sell a great product, take good care of your customer and price your products competitively and I'll support you. Otherwise common sense tells me to shop elsewhere. Now, I can buy Ilford HP5+ and FP4+ local for just slightly more than B&H and I do do that on occasion. The only Kodak film I might buy is TMY2. Tmax 100 just never turned my crank (I shoot 120 format so 35mm might be different) and I would rather use Ilford Delta 100 or better yet, Fuji Acros. Just me of course and I'm sure many folks here feel different. Unfortunately I didn't make out very well in this new "tax break" deal to allow me not to think with my wallet. A wise old man told me something once and I'll never forget it.. He said, "One of the things that screws the working mans economy up royal is that there are some folks out there with more money than brains, which tends to drive prices out of reach for the poorer folks". He's right in a way.
Not always. However, you always pay (one way or another) for what you get....You get what you pay for...
well B&H is much more expensive than all the other usual online retailers, so give others the business
You say, "well, penny wise and pound foolish. You get what you pay for", but not always. I do wish Kodak the best, but when they price themselves out of most folks common sense buying habit it's not good. When you buy your bulk Tmax online check to see the difference in price between it and Delta 100 or FP4+ bulk. It seems to me that where Ilford films are made is not China and Ilfords labor and raw material costs can't be much, if any, different from Kodaks. I'm not saying anything bad about either Tmax or Tmy2, but I'm really puzzled as to the price difference. I'm like Ratty in this respect and refuse to pay the difference until somebody can justify it and so far nobody, as far as I know, has come up with that explanation? The nice thing for me and my work is that I can get by just fine without using Kodak film. Others might not be able to say that. Also, I'm still gun-shy about the paper backing issue and that adds to my reasoning also. You buys what you want......you takes your chances!I would respectfully submit that refusing to buy a quality product because of an eleven percent price difference is....well, penny wise and pound foolish. You get what you pay for. Here in New Mexico I have three stores that still sell film, but the price is nearly twice the online price.I pay it because I want them to stay in business. Then I try to be careful about tripping the shutter. In the case of TM100, I will but in bulk online, but if I run out, the locals provide a much appreciated backup.
You say, "well, penny wise and pound foolish. You get what you pay for", but not always. I do wish Kodak the best, but when they price themselves out of most folks common sense buying habit it's not good.
I would respectfully submit that refusing to buy a quality product because of an eleven percent price difference is....well, penny wise and pound foolish.
You get what you pay for. Here in New Mexico I have three stores that still sell film, but the price is nearly twice the online price.I pay it because I want them to stay in business. Then I try to be careful about tripping the shutter. In the case of TM100, I will but in bulk online, but if I run out, the locals provide a much appreciated backup.
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