There's more than one Bronica lens system?

Marc Estalella · Sep 11, 2020

I was looking a 50mm for my Bronica ETRSi and I've found some "for Bronica ETRS". There's differents lenses for differents Bronicas or Bronica have only one lens system?
Thanks!

ronnies · Sep 11, 2020

There are three Bronica lens systems I think. For ETRS, SQA and GS. ETRS and ETRSi are the same.

Ronnie

PFGS · Sep 11, 2020

ronnies said:
There are three Bronica lens systems I think. For ETRS, SQA and GS. ETRS and ETRSi are the same.

Ronnie

Strictly speaking, the Bronica leaf-shutter 645 system is "ETR" and those lenses all fit the ETR, ETR-C, ETRS, and ETRSi bodies. So far as I know, there are zero compatibility issues among these.

cobbu2 · Sep 11, 2020

And within the “ETR” 6x4.5 group are the early MCs, later EIIs, and finally the PEs.

Here’s a comprehensive summary for all Bronicas:

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Bronica_lenses

And an even more detailed list for the ETR lenses:

http://bronica.net/ETR/bronica-ETR-lens-1-1-2.htm

Tom Kershaw · Sep 11, 2020

cobbu2 said:
nd within the “ETR” 6x4.5 group are the early MCs, later EIIs, and finally the PEs.

Here’s a comprehensive summary for all Bronicas:

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Bronica_lenses

Rather oddly, this list of lenses page doesn't mention the 1:1 macro 110mm f/4.5 PS lens.

cobbu2 · Sep 11, 2020

Tom Kershaw said:
Rather oddly, this list of lenses page doesn't mention the 1:1 macro 110mm f/4.5 PS lens.

I see a 110mm f/4 under the SQ 6x6 PS list... perhaps an error on camera-wiki’s part?

Tom Kershaw · Sep 11, 2020

cobbu2 said:
I see a 110mm f/4 under the SQ 6x6 PS list... perhaps an error on camera-wiki’s part?

Confusingly there are two lenses, the f/4 which isn't a 1:1 ratio, and the f/4.5 which can go to 1:1 ratio.

Tom

Kodachromeguy · Sep 11, 2020

These were superb lenses. I sometimes wonder at the amazing diversity of medium format cameras that we could buy in the 1980s and 1990s. Bronica, Mamiya, and Pentax offered 645 systems with multiple lenses and accessories. But beyond that, Bronica offered 3 med. format systems, Pentax had 2, Fuji 2 or 3, and Mamiya had 7 (incredible). The Mamiya 7 lenses are reputed to be among the finest med format lenses ever.

DWThomas · Sep 11, 2020

Tom Kershaw said:
Rather oddly, this list of lenses page doesn't mention the 1:1 macro 110mm f/4.5 PS lens.

And I believe there were two zoom lenses, a 50-100 and a longer one (100-200?) for the SQ also. The page mentions the two for the ETR series.

Tom Kershaw · Sep 11, 2020

DWThomas said:
And I believe there were two zoom lenses, a 50-100 and a longer one (100-200?) for the SQ also. The page mentions the two for the ETR series.

I'm not sure I've ever seen the SQ 'PS' series zoom lenses for sale second hand over here; ETR series gear seems more common, at least in the UK marketplace. I've sometimes considered getting a 180mm f/4.5 PS which can focus to 1m but these don't come up often and I'm not sure of fair pricing. In the past I had the PS 150 and PS 250 but found the close focus limitations frustrating.

moto-uno · Sep 11, 2020

Bringing up SQ lens is adding some confusion to this thread " Etrsi" .

wiltw · Sep 11, 2020

Tom Kershaw said:
Rather oddly, this list of lenses page doesn't mention the 1:1 macro 110mm f/4.5 PS lens.

For the ETR, the list also fails to note the Zenzanon PE Variogon 70-140mm f/4.5, and the Zenzanon PC Variogon 125-250mm f/5.6, both made by Scheider.

Klaus_H · Sep 12, 2020

The Schneider Variogon lenses had been the first zoom lenses for both the ETR and the SQ camera line. A Schneider shift lens was also available for both camera lines.
The Schneider Variogon and the shift lens had been available for Hasselblad V and Rolleiflex 6xxx too.
At the end of the Bronica company there existed a 45-90mm and a 100-200mm zoom lens (TAMRON) for the ETR and a 50-100mm zoom lens (TAMRON) for the SQ .

I own a 50-100mm 1:4-5.6 PS zoom lens. It is a good lens but not at the same level than the PS prime lenses. It can compete with the S lens range.

Tony-S · Sep 12, 2020

ronnies said:
There are three Bronica lens systems I think. For ETRS, SQA and GS. ETRS and ETRSi are the same.

Ronnie

And a fourth, the RF645, the best 6x4.5 rangefinder ever made.

abruzzi · Sep 12, 2020

Tony-S said:
And a fourth, the RF645, the best 6x4.5 rangefinder ever made.

and, of course, a fifth—the early 6x6 Z/D/S/S2 camera lenses (mostly Nikkor.)

moto-uno · Sep 12, 2020

^ And definitely the most attractive of all . Peter

choiliefan · Sep 13, 2020

Let us not forget the EC-series.

abruzzi · Sep 16, 2020

choiliefan said:
Let us not forget the EC-series.

though the EC series uses the same lenses as the S/S2 so they are part of the same "system." I'd like to try an EC-TL at some point, but I'm just a little paranoid about a very complex camera with no one to service.

moto-uno · Sep 17, 2020

^ Hey it's not a Hassleblad )) , they don't need servicing , it's made in Japan ! So there . I too would like to try an EC-TL . Peter

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