Well I gues that will clear out some of the "olde school" and allow some space for new blood onto the committee. This story is tipical of why I have always declined offers to join any local camera clubs as I never seem to hear good things about them.sparx said:I need to rant...... Will i be going back? Yes i probably will and next time i'm going to enter a cyanotype print of an abstract I took with my home-made pinhole camera. I'm predicting one heart attack, two strokes and a lynch mob out for my blood.
Rant over
Aw shucks, i'm blushing. Or maybe it's the rope slowly tightening around my neckTPPhotog said:Fear not we love your work
LOL Blush away I save the rope for some of my models (MORTEN!!!)sparx said:Aw shucks, i'm blushing. Or maybe it's the rope slowly tightening around my neck.
You know my night class instructor!TPPhotog said:Btw I forgot to ask do they still have the portraiture rule that the shadow of the nose must be below but not cutting into the upper lip or some crap like that?
No wonder an earlier thread asked what or if we are doing anything to advance photography. Maybe we could advance it by shooting (with pointy metal projectiles) some of the instructors out thererogueish said:You know my night class instructor!We had to shoot a entire roll using the "butterfly" lighting. "The shadow must cover one half of the upper lip, but make sure you don't get heavy shadows under the eyes."
Drove me nuts! I was a rebel and kept switching up the lighting. Ended up with a good mark though.
TPPhotog said:LOL Blush away I save the rope for some of my models (MORTEN!!!)
Now did I mention bondage? LOL Just think of those textures as props or backgrounds for latex, pvc or even leathermodafoto said:Uhhhmmm....Models in bondage!
arigram said:The photographs are so cliche they make my stomach turn. They are the McDonalds of photography. And they claim titles and awards and a "Cretan School". They are the Taliban of the art world, clinging to stupid rules and technology like crazed fundamentalists.
Check them out over here:
http://www.efecrete.gr/Gallery.htm
(I think the page has only greek, but you only need to see the photos!)
Maybe that should be the moto for most photography clubs .... quick copyright itEd Sukach said:... are you really a masochist? If so ... enjoy!
Ed Sukach said:I know of *no* significant innovators that rose from the Camera Club ranks.
Harry Callahan was quite a motivator and I believe he started in a camera club as did Charlie Harbutt, a former President of Magnum, and I rate him as the best teacher/motivator that I know.
I tend to agree with a lot of what has been said in this thread having experienced it in my time as a camera club member. I did try to change things in the club that I was in but it was a waste of time and effort so I stopped because I was getting frustrated just as sparx is. However, I also took the view that these people who caused me the frustration had the right to their views etc and I thought "who was I too try to change those views" so I left the club scene.
Les McLean said:Ed Sukach said:I know of *no* significant innovators that rose from the Camera Club ranks.
Harry Callahan was quite a motivator and I believe he started in a camera club as did Charlie Harbutt, a former President of Magnum, and I rate him as the best teacher/motivator that I know.
I will not disagree. I am aware, from reading, about f/64 and Weston's, Adams' and all, involvement with that organization.
f/64 seemed to fall apart, for the lack of a common formal purpose ... the "why" became, more or less, unanswerable. Without that structure they all stayed ~ squint at this ~ more or less, "in touch".
It is certainly possible that there are "Camera Clubs" that are GEMS ... that have the interests of each and every member at heart, that are totally devoid of devious politics (... hah! I like this redundancy!), and are truly positive influences.
Possible - I'll concede that - but I haven't found one yet... and I'm not exactly holding my breath until I do.
rogueish said:You know my night class instructor!We had to shoot a entire roll using the "butterfly" lighting. QUOTE]
Back in my tolerant years, I attended a meeting that had a PRO portrait photographer lecture. He said that all professional were using the C&S method of posing. The "C" was a single curve, while the S was a double.
"You can 'C' or 'S' a female client. But you can only 'C' a male client. You must never 'S' a male customer" I thought to myself, they have the exact same rule in the porn industry.
Another time they decided to expand their competition. So they set up a committee to fashion rule for judging B&W print entries.
The president went for a workshop with Elliot Porter. I swear if I had heard
"synergistery" one more time during critique- I would've thrown up on his shoes!
"But I'm feeling much better now"
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