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I always wanted an original Avedon, Friedlander, Winogrand, HCB and Brandt. Maybe this is a good time to buy. I like dogs, so this has been one of my favoritres. Going for about $7000 which is still pretty expensive.
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There are less and less people who agree with “ experience in person” or this was made the artists hands as being high value. High value today is the talking point that I own “xyz” artist. It is to show others you have taste or money. Not that you understand “Aura” or appreciate “Aura” of the art work. ( Walter Benjamin) Most people don’t care.
Go to any museum on “free night” you will clearly see vapid consumerism at its best. It’s social hour with a twist of “ can I meet someone here tonight that’s artsy?
Galleries ( brick and mortar) are in decline. Yes, they are still there, but less than 40 years ago. And not making money. Auctions houses are making money, only because they know how to leverage the market, most galleries do not!!
Go on line now, and see any piece of art you wish “ for free” and read about quickly to gain the talking points. In 5 minutes you can move on to something else, or another idea, website, etc. see it ! Throw it away! See it , throw it away! Repeat until you have consumed the world. In between martinis! Cheers!
I imagine with signs of a recession; people may be conserving their money lowering prices on all art. Who knows what causes these things?
Those who have the collecting bug really bad will make great sacrifices to obtain art. Then there is a great segment of collectors who don't have to worry about such minor things as food and shelter, more like which house to hang the art in.I think the desire for food and shelter might preempt art purchases
I saw this link to an article on the state of the market for contemporary photography on RFF and thought that it might gain better traction here on Photrio:
The author notes a marked decline in prices and characterizes the decline as an overcorrection in the market. The thing about overcorrections is that they are corrections, and corrections are reassessments of value, financial and otherwise.
Helicopters come in handy then. Or chauffeurs.P.S. All cars go exactly the same speed in a traffic jam.
Helicopters come in handy then. Or chauffeurs.
Back in the 70s I saw Moonrise at the Adams gallery in Yosemite for $14,000. Using a future value calculator, that $14K put into an index fund back then would now be worth a bit over $300K. I’m glad I didn’t buy the photo.
You are referring to Walter Benjamin's 1935 essay The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction. The sky has not fallen on the art world (including photography) in the eight decades since he wrote it.
If the scene you describe is accurate, one way to avoid it is not to go to the museum on opening night. It will also be easier to find a parking space and there won't be a crowd later on.
I don't know what the state of art galleries is generally, but we have quite a few around here and none that I am aware of are going out of business. We have never had a gallery dedicated to photography, but some of the art galleries show photography from time to time. With respect to dedicated photography galleries, after a couple of years not having conferences due to the pandemic, the Association of International Photography Art Dealers (AIPAD) had a big conference and photo exhibit in New York in late March. If you have any interest in reading about it, here is the link:
Show - The Association of International Photography Art Dealers encourages public support of fine art photography by acting as a collective voice for the dealers in fine art photography and through communication and education that enhances the confid
The Association of International Photography Art Dealers encourages public support of fine art photography by acting as a collective voice for the dealers in fine art photography and through communication and education that enhances the confidence of the public, museums, institutions and others...www.aipad.com
I am not sure exactly what you mean by "gain the talking points", but it sounds dismissive and demeaning. Seeing a photographic print in person is an entirely different experience from seeing an image online. If you are not interested in having such an experience, that is of course your choice. Nobody is going to make you go.
You are on my short list for the Most Cynical and Disaffected Member of the Day
secretly, I am vying for the most cynical person/lifetime achievement award .You are referring to Walter Benjamin's 1935 essay The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction. The sky has not fallen on the art world (including photography) in the eight decades since he wrote it.
If the scene you describe is accurate, one way to avoid it is not to go to the museum on opening night. It will also be easier to find a parking space and there won't be a crowd later on.
I don't know what the state of art galleries is generally, but we have quite a few around here and none that I am aware of are going out of business. We have never had a gallery dedicated to photography, but some of the art galleries show photography from time to time. With respect to dedicated photography galleries, after a couple of years not having conferences due to the pandemic, the Association of International Photography Art Dealers (AIPAD) had a big conference and photo exhibit in New York in late March. If you have any interest in reading about it, here is the link:
Show - The Association of International Photography Art Dealers encourages public support of fine art photography by acting as a collective voice for the dealers in fine art photography and through communication and education that enhances the confid
The Association of International Photography Art Dealers encourages public support of fine art photography by acting as a collective voice for the dealers in fine art photography and through communication and education that enhances the confidence of the public, museums, institutions and others...www.aipad.com
I am not sure exactly what you mean by "gain the talking points", but it sounds dismissive and demeaning. Seeing a photographic print in person is an entirely different experience from seeing an image online. If you are not interested in having such an experience, that is of course your choice. Nobody is going to make you go.
You are on my short list for the Most Cynical and Disaffected Member of the Day Award.
<<Since I do not sell my photographs for multiple millions of dollars, I will not be loosing any sleep over this.
I always wanted an original Avedon, Friedlander, Winogrand, HCB and Brandt. Maybe this is a good time to buy. I like dogs, so this has been one of my favoritres. Going for about $7000 which is still pretty expensive.
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I would always worry why he didn’t take two steps to the right before pressing the button. Did he take this from his car?
I'm guessing you may not be that familiar with Friedlander's work
To see if I can steer us back on track a bit, please note that the title and content of the article concerns the market for contemporary photography, not the market for photography in general.
It has been my observation that many who post on this forum have mostly disdain for or ignorance of contemporary photography.
That’s a surprising statement. Surely most of them are making contemporary photography, in some cases selling it too.
Collectible photography is like anything else that's collectible: meaningless to the majority of humanity.
Contemporary photography suffers from a general undervaluing brought about by the fact that so many people have immediate and (almost) free (by almost, I mean it's already been paid for) access to cameras that take the kinds of photos that they want. That extends from family portraiture through wedding photography (lots of exceptions there) through to journalism (the reporter takes pictures with his or her cellphone). Lots of product photography is also no longer done by "professionals". And stock photography is so blown up it seems to be almost impossible to make any money from it (unless you were the first one to upload pictures of people wearing masks, in various suitable situations). And there's so much stock photography, why would anyone need to hire a photographer for "typical" images for an ad campaign (Cheap ad campaign, that is) or industry-relevant flyer or pamphlet?
We may have access to a billion new free to view photos a day, but finding a good one is becoming more and more difficult.
I suppose that's true. Time will tell whether any of those have lasting value.Many are making rehashes of established and cliched styles. There is little innovation...
Does there have to be? What if the newer (presumably more innovative) work isn't that admirable? Should we buy it nevertheless because it represents contemporary photography?... or appreciation for newer work.
Contemporary photography in the context of the article means contemporary fine art photography. The author was not referring to all the other kinds of photography mentioned in your second and third paragraphs.
Does there have to be? What if the newer (presumably more innovative) work isn't that admirable? Should we buy it nevertheless because it represents contemporary photography?
Not even sure why you mention stock photography. It has never had much value or been collectable, except maybe some vintage stuff.
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