Holy crap! I just used to add a tiny dash of vinegar to the wash water, like 1% or thereabouts. The main point about the acid "development" isn't really development at all, but just ensuring that the wash water has a pH slightly below 7 so that no insoluble iron salts are created that won't wash out.'developing' in 25% (v/v) vinegar
On another note, did you acidify the Stonehenge paper? For me, it never was a good candidate for Kallitype or Cyanotype, unless I acidified it first. Much better darks, and smoother tones. Cheers! It's a lovely composition!
Holy crap! I just used to add a tiny dash of vinegar to the wash water, like 1% or thereabouts. The main point about the acid "development" isn't really development at all, but just ensuring that the wash water has a pH slightly below 7 so that no insoluble iron salts are created that won't wash out.
But I preferred a half gram or so of citric acid to a liter of water. Citric acid makes the blue shift very subtly towards magenta; you get more of an indigo tint, as opposed to acetic acid which gives a more cyan hue.
You really only need a tiny bit of acid. Especially with classic cyanotype, which easily bleaches out as you've found. Give it a try; you might see some improvement in dmax and overall contrast.
Another concise and useful study, Frank. Thanks for sharing.
In my experiments, what I found is that some minimum concentration of acid and length of time in "development" are required to maximize the density and at the same time make it relatively unaffected from subsequent plain tap-water washing. I was not looking for variations in the quality of wash water (may be I should have as I too have no running water in my dim room so use tray processing with a gallon jug at a time of mostly but not always freshly filled tap water when I start a session, although luckily in my testing the city water seems to be of relatively constant pH in the 6-7 range.)
Basically I varied the citric acid concentration from 0 % to 5% and time of development from 1/2 min to 5 minutes followed with tray-wash with tap-water for different amounts of times up to 10 minutes. The conclusion was that density improvement plateaued around 1% CA and it required at least 3 minutes of development to see no observable loss of density during washing. Based on these findings, my initial process was 3 minutes in 1% CA followed by 4 washes of 1 minute each in tap-water. This gave me the highest Dmax for a given set of other conditions, but unfortunately since there is no free lunch in cyanotypes, it was also accompanied by higher Dmin caused by fogging or blue staining at zero exposure. So I made a compromise and added a 1/2 min development in tap water as a first step followed by the 3 min 1% CA treatment and final 4 tap-water washes of 1 minute each. It does bring down the Dmax a bit as a price to pay for getting zero-exposure step much closer to paper white.
Relevant question to the your study here, I wonder if you increase the development time with or without acetic acid concentration, is it possible to make the outcome independent of whether or not aged water is used for washing.
:Niranjan.
It might just be the scans, but the dark blue borders look very pale in comparison to what I got with classic cyanotype.I have no complaints about either Dmax or contrast
Niranjan - Buried in the Appendix III.8 of my Cyanomicon (see my website) is an attempt to answer the questions that you ask above.
No-one is likely to read it, so here is a rough transcript (with apologies for unformatted sub- and superscripts!)
In the usual cyanotype process, the sensitizer consists of a mixture of potassium hexacyanoferrate(III) with a photosensitive iron(III) salt - ammonium iron(III) citrate in Herschel’s Classic recipe, which is replaced by ammonium trisoxalatoferrate(III) in later commercial blueprint papers and my New Cyanotype. Upon exposure to ultraviolet light, the iron(II) salt is formed photochemically; for the latter case, we can write an equation:
UV + 2[Fe(C2O4)3]3– = 2[Fe(C2O4)2]2– + (C2O4)2– + 2CO2
(In the case of the citrate system the precise identity of the iron(II) photoproduct is not known, but it is certain to be a citrato- complex.) Prussian blue is then supposed to be formed by an overall reaction such as:
[Fe(C2O4)2]2– + [Fe(CN)6]3– = Fe[Fe(CN)6]– + 2(C2O4)2–
However, this complex displacement reaction cannot occur in one concerted step, because the carboxylate ligands must be stripped off the iron(II) before it can be incorporated into a Prussian blue lattice by ferricyanide.
Iron(II) does not bind oxalate very strongly, as may be seen from the overall dissociation constant:
[Fe(C2O4)2]2– = Fe2+ + 2(C2O4)2– β2 = 4 x 10^–7
Removal of oxalate will be promoted by the presence of hydrogen ions, which compete with the metal to form undissociated oxalic acid, for which the overall equilibrium constant is:
(C2O4)2– + 2H+ = H2C2O4 Ka = 3.24 x 10^5
Accordingly, the equilibrium:
[Fe(C2O4)2]2– + 4H+ = Fe2+ + 2H2C2O4
lies to the right hand side, with a calculated equilibrium constant of:
K = Ka^2 β2 = 4.2 x 10^4
The Fe2+ is then free to be incorporated, so the development of the Prussian blue image from such a sensitizer is strongly promoted by initial treatment in a bath of dilute mineral acid, (1% v/v nitric, or hydrochloric) rather than water, as may be seen from the D/logH curves for New Cyanotype. In the Classic process, with citrate as ligand, the iron-citrato complexes are weaker and will therefore only require a more dilute acid for development, such as acetic or citric; mineral acids may cause fogging.
I don’t have any numbers - or indeed, formulae - for the complexes in the Classic citrate system - do you?
Mike Ware
https://www.mikeware.co.uk
Acid wash vs plain water issue to me is a paradox. When an exposed paper coated with classic formula is dunked in either tap water or even distilled water, the resulting effluent is yellowish clear solution (more recently I have found exceptions to this but I will leave this for a future discussion) whereas the same when placed into a tray containing acidified water, 1% CA for example, the result is an immediate blue solution. When I saw this for the first time, I thought obviously the latter where the Prussian blue seems to be leaching out from the paper will have lower density and the former should have higher density. In reality though, the opposite is true. The Dmin of the water-developed print is very close to the paper white and Dmax is much lower while the acid developed print has good bit of fogging in the whites and Dmax is off the charts, comparatively.
So what is happening?
I have some theories - still under formulation, though. Any guesses?
Thanks you Mike for your input. I do not have any data on the structures or the equilibria involved in the classic cyanotype chemistry.
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:Niranjan.
Niranjan - Thanks for your response - your thinking is along the right lines - except that I believe it is not a question of the rates of reactions (which are all very fast), but the positions of equilibria (i.e. the relative concentrations of reactants and products) - as Frank says: it's all about equilibrium constants!
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Mike
To remove some variables from the equation, I would make one large print, cut it into four equal pieces and treat those differently. The experiment you did leave me thinking about the possibility of the coating or exposure of the four prints have influenced the result more than the development of water.
Don't take this the wrong way, Kudos for experimenting and sharing!
Glenn,
Thanks for the comment. I have never liked the approach of splitting an image as you suggest in order to make comparisons, because you then necessarily have to compare different parts of the image to one another.
In my experiments, the difference in coating and exposure are likely very small.
The same paper was coated with the same batch of sensitizer at the same time and left to dry naturally. It only takes me 15 or 20 minutes to coat the entire batch of a dozen or so sheets of paper. I let the paper dry for 2 hours minimum, but depending on the day it might be longer. Thus, the sheet to sheet differences in drying time are relatively small.
Likewise with the exposures, the light source is on a timer and all exposures were made one right after the other. In this case all four exposures were completed within about a half hour.
I am quite confident that the differences I see are due to the differences in processing and not differences in coating or exposure.
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/solar-uv-exposure-meter-sharing-a-diy-project.176686/so I really should find a way to measure Uv dose...
I've little to add to what I've already written on Cyanotype Toning in Chapter 8 of my e-book Cyanomicon - freely downloadable from my website:Don't mean to hijack from the debate here but seeing that Mike is about I would like to pose a question on how to get the best near neutral black in a print when toning cyanos without too much influence on paper colour?
Thanks & hope others find it useful.
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