Tetenal Colortec oxygen sensitivity

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If I wanted to split the concentrates from the 5 liter kit to increase the shelf life, which components are sensitive to oxygen exposure?

First Developer FD (1000 ml)
Colour Developer CD part 1 (1000 ml)
Colour Developer CD part 2 (600 ml)
Bleach Fix BX part 1 (1000 ml)
Bleach Fix BX part 2 (1000 ml)
Stabilizer STAB (500 ml)

Or are all oxygen-sensitive? I'd like to partition them into 5 bottles each. The volumes are listed for each in the 5 liter kit.
 

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For the CD make sure NOT to use PET bottles. I can't remember which part cracked my bottles, fortunately I didn't have any damage. And yes fixer will react with O2 to form sulfur, nasty stinking SO2.
I've divided Tetenal's E6 kits and used over 4 years. I used butane to displace the air and kept the bottles full when possible.
 

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You just add butane to the bottle? Does it sit on top or go to the bottom?
Butane is heavier than air, but lighter than liquids.
So it goes to the middle!
(it sits on top of the liquid and isolates it from the air and oxygen above).
It is, of course, flammable.
 
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Butane is heavier than air, but lighter than liquids.
So it goes to the middle!
(it sits on top of the liquid and isolates it from the air and oxygen above).
It is, of course, flammable.
Thanks. Where does one buy butane? I'd hate to buy a bunch of lighters...
 

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You just add butane to the bottle? Does it sit on top or go to the bottom?
Tetenal sells a protection aerosol in a can. It's Propane and iso-butane, these gases can be, with a tube, forcefully displace air in the ullage of the container. I have used a small butane torch. Don't use a lighter, if you hit the igniter, it's a bad day.

Back when the US-EPA only worried about ozone and not global warming, you could buy aerosol dusters that used HFC-134a, these worked great. Now 134a and most HFC (s) are banned in the US, Canada, EU. China still uses HFC 's, HCFC 's and (by bribing the right official ) CFC 's. Freon 11 is the greatest foam blowing agent ever made, spray foam for building insulation is a huge, enormous, industry in China . So you either leave no air or adapt which means using a flammable compound. All domestic, home, refrigerator freezers are being converted to iso-butane for refrigerant. This is what is used in disposable cigarette lighters. It's been used in the EU for years, decades in Germany. There have been a couple explosions but under extraordinary circumstances.

So, yes, you add butane to the bottle. Or easy use a small bottle and fill it to the brim, this is what I do with black and white stock solutions. If you exclude the air, all the air, you can, keep print and film developers for a couple years. My record, believe it or not. When we moved, I found a bottle of XTOL stock solution, 11 YEARS OLD, in a flimsy PET soda bottle, I had squeezed all the air out. The XTOL looked like crappy American beer, like Piss. I was getting ready to toss. I thought I may never get another chance.,I developed a roll of 120 TMY-2, extended the development time by about 50%, the negatives look great. There's an old thread here on it.

Air burns down houses, does the same thing to developers (and sometimes fixer).
 
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I'm going to buy a can of the Tetenal product. It's back in stock.
That's great to know. So, can this just be sprayed into the original bottles that the Tetenal E-6 chems come in? I have the 2.5 L kit and would like to make 800 mL working solutions.
 

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So, can this just be sprayed into the original bottles that the Tetenal E-6 chems come in? I have the 2.5 L kit and would like to make 800 mL working solutions.

Ι have the same question. Would it be good practice to spray protectan directly in the original chemistry bottles in order to avoid splitting it up in smaller bottles?
 
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