Techniscope 2.66 Aspect Ratio , Any 35mm camera ?

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Feb 13, 2014

I love Spagetti Westerns when Dirty Harry appears on the final streched tight and long on the screen . Our friend btaylor wrote they were taken on 35mm film with 2.66 ratio , 2 perf and enlarged 4 perf with optics. I want to buy a cheap 35mm camera which its viewfinder and mechanism special for that format.
I will strech it with computer. What is the aspect ratio of cheap anamorph p&s cameras ?

Umut

MDR · Feb 14, 2014

Mustafa a small correction Techniscope has an aspect ratio of 2.66 at the shooting Stage but was projected at the classic 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio.
And do you mean a 35mm Still camera or Motion Picture if the latter get either an Eclair Cameflex and try to find the Techniscope kit for it or an Arri 35-II(A-C) and again try to find a techniscope kit for it.

MDR · Feb 14, 2014

The Lomokino is the cheapest way to get the desired Aspect Ratio of 2.66:1 you only have to mask the Lomokino down from it's native 2.8:1 to 2.66:1

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Feb 14, 2014

Hello,

I dont have any ability to buy a arri , I am looking for photograph camera MDR. Cheapest and good lens one. I dont have money for 21mm nikon and fg. May be some crazy investors build something for me. By the way , I dont know the aspect ratio of cheap panorama cameras , may be they suit but I dont know their specs.

Thank you,
Umut

MDR · Feb 14, 2014

Do you make your own prints if so you could mask it off at the enlarging stage. A filmmask out of black cardboard with the correct Aspect Ratio. Another option would be to mask off the Filmgate of a classic 35mm SLR and put some marks with a permanent marker on the Groundglass.
You could also use a cheap 2x anamorphic attachment on the lens this would create a 3:1 aspect ratio cut off a bit on the sides at the enlarging stage.
(requires a de-anmorphizer to create a wide picture).

To get a 2.35 Aspect Ratio from a 35mm Stillcamera your have to create a mask in the following size: 36mm (wide) x 15.31mm (height) for a 2.66 Aspect Ratio 36mm (wide) x 13.53mm (height)

The original Techniscope frame is around 22.00 x 9.40 mm depending upon the camera manufacturer.

Good Luck

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Feb 14, 2014

Hello again MDR,

22 x 9.4 mm format makes life is easy. If we hold the camera for that format , single 35mm frame holds nearly 4 frames. Opening the camera and reducing the gear teeths 1/4 with zenit camera does the trick , my neighbor was a passport photographer and he did that to his camera 1/2 and take pictures cheaper than the competitors and become rich at the 70s. Simple trick but it worked , he used an zenit et. He is still around and can help me. What would be the camera lens ? Again 58 mm helios or wider ? And is there a another trick I dont know.
Were the lenses compressing one side of image more or everything is a frame and normal lens only ?

Thank you for your help ,
Photography is costly for me and I have to tighten the belt.

Umut

MDR · Feb 14, 2014

The lenses for Techniscope were normal spherical lenses no compression of the frame. A 35mm lens should work well, a 25mm lens even better. If you only really use the techniscope frame you can get some old Lomo cine lenses and adapt them to your camera mount or vice versa build an OCT-18 (or 19) mount for your Zenit. This might interest you as well http://www.2perf.arandafilm.com.au/NewFiles/page2generalinformation.html

Chan Tran · Feb 14, 2014

If you want to shoot still with that format why not simply use a 35mm camera and crop. You may need a wide angle lens.

cliveh · Feb 14, 2014

Chan Tran said:
If you want to shoot still with that format why not simply use a 35mm camera and crop. You may need a wide angle lens.

What a nice simple reply. Well done.

pen s · Feb 14, 2014

Wasen't there a special lens for 35mm movie cameras that was shot with the compressed and enlongated image vertical and then un-comprerssed for projection with the lens axis horizontal.

ic-racer · Feb 14, 2014

Hasselblad XPan
Otherwise if you want an inexpensive version, try a $5 'panorama' camera that cuts off the top and bottom of a standard 35mm frame like the Minolta Explorer Panoramic.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Minolta-Exp...nd-Shoot-AF-with-remote-control-/141190678407

Samuel Hotton · Feb 15, 2014

Hello Mustafa,
I use the Russian Horizon 202 camera with the 28mm lens and a 24x58mm negative size (2.42:1 aspect ratio). The final aspect ratio of 2.35:1 Techniscope you desire would mean you crop .8mm (eight tenths) of a millimeter off the edges in the printing. Meaning you will be using 56.4mm rather than the full 58mm width. I have used the older Gorizont /Horizont and the Horizon 202 and been very happy with the images.

All the best,
Sam H.

Dan Fromm · Feb 15, 2014

pen s said:
Wasen't there a special lens for 35mm movie cameras that was shot with the compressed and enlongated image vertical and then un-comprerssed for projection with the lens axis horizontal.

Funny you should mention that. The OP, who seems to be very forgetful, recently posted links to discussions of anamorphic lenses. They're around.

Techniscope 2.66 Aspect Ratio , Any 35mm camera ?

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