Technika Symmar 180/5.6 12/315 uncoated Nr. 11623690 in old style Compur - ???

[eumenius]

Hi friends,

today in shop I noticed the lens described in subject, mounted on Technika board. Judging from the number and Schneider data, it should be made in the seventies, but the lens is not coated, and it's in old style Compur, with top dial speed setting and I-B-T selection wheel on the left. I am quite puzzled how can it be so - the original aperture marks on the shutter's top are painted over, and two new ranges of marks are put on a face plate, covering the shutter, and saying "Linhof" on it. This old non-synchronized type of Compur is definitely not from the 70s, I would say it's pre-war... how comes also that Linhof Schneider lens from 70s is not coated? Can anyone solve the mystery?

Zhenya

 

[Ole]

The only uncoated Symmars were the older Dagor-type triple convertible f:6.3 ones. The f:5.6 were all coated! That one must have been put in an older shutter.

 

[eumenius]

The f:5.6 were all coated! That one must have been put in an older shutter.

Oh my. And this shutter came from some kind of antique Technika? Looks like it was made that way by Linhof itself, with all its face side closed. And yes, it's 5.6 and it's uncoated!! I wonder how could it be, with the proud proud Linhof Technika written on the lens nameplate. Looks like Carl Zeiss Jena had some fun

 

[Dan Fromm]

Zhenya, Symmar is a Schneider trade name, not a Zeiss trade name. And as Ole said it covers several design families.

That said, according to the Vade Mecum the dagor type was usually made as f/6.8, as few as f/4.5(?), and was in production from 1920 through 1954. It was replaced in 1955 by the familiar f/5.6 Plasmat type, and since Schneider had been coating everything from the late '40s all f/5.6 Symmars should be coated. So if yours is f/5.6 and uncoated it is a real curiosity. Counting reflections should let you tell whether it is a plasmat or a dagor.

Cheers,

Dan

 

[Dan Fromm]

Oops! s/n 11623690 was made in 1970. Cells migrate from shutter to shutter.

 

[glennfromwy]

I have a thoroughly uncoated 210 f:5.6 Symmar in a rim set Compur shutter that is uncoated. Nice lens. It performs very well.

 

[Ole]

...it's in old style Compur, with top dial speed setting and I-B-T selection wheel on the left. ...

Could it be a Compound? I guess not - the 180mm Symmar should be in a #1 shutter, and Compounds were made in 3, 4 and 5.

Here's another 180mm Symmar convertible: http://cgi.ebay.com/Schneider-Optik...oryZ8277QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Note the Linhof enclosed Compur shutter...