technika III or IV?

hi,
could you tell me which linhof model this
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Linhof-Techn...-3-5-105-mm-/191676054751?hash=item2ca0c87cdf
camera ist?
i think it should be a super technika IV with 6x9 rollfilm back.
only wanted to be shure that it is no super technika III.
was there a technika only called technika 6x9 like this
http://www.cameramanuals.org/prof_pdf/linhof_technika_6x9.pdf
or is this a super technika iv with 6x9 back?
kind regards, ingo

The eBay listing is no longer available. Linhof has made Technikas in 5x7", 4x5" and 2x3", and it is possible to use a rollfilm back on a 4x5" or even a 5x7" with a 4x5" reducing back. The 2x3" models can use either rollfilm backs or sheet film holders.

hi david,
thank you for your answer. the ebay listing is still available i think, works at this moment.
i asked because i will be in aachen (where the camera will be sold) an could have get it wihout shipping
kind regards, ingo

Interesting--I can see the link on my iPhone, but not on my laptop. It is not a 4x5" camera with a rollfilm back.

This looks a 6x9 Super Technika IV with an older, 6x9cm knob-wind rollfilm back. These knob-wind backs will have frame spacing problems with certain films (you have to test to find out which ones). The later lever wind backs don't have this problem, because they meter the actual film travel, while the older ones presume a certain thickness for the film and paper backing. Lever-wind Tech 23 backs work on the earlier cameras. The rangefinder cam and lens seem to be serial-number matched from the photos, so as long as the rangefinder is calibrated, the lens is coupled. The photos also show a groundglass back, so you could use regular filmholders--nominal 2x3" or 6.5x9cm European style--and you can use the camera movements with rollfilm.

The other two lobes of the rangefinder cam haven't been cut for a specific lens, so you could have a 65mm and a 180mm lens coupled to this camera as well, if you have a repair technician who works on the older models.

thank you very much. what is the difference between III an IV (where is it evidently visible). i was told that the IV ist improved over the III and the V almost the same as the IV.
the seller told me serial numbers:
- on the flash holder 48414
- on the bottom of the camera sledge 1231214
the 48414 serial number would mean that its a III after https://www.cameraquest.com/techs.htm

From the shape of the front-standart, I would expect that this is a III. I'm not familar with the 2x3 modells, but as far as I know the 4x5 Technika III has other lensboards than a IV, V or Master.

It is possible that it is a late version of a 6x9 III, but the Cameraquest page is mostly about the 4x5" cameras, not the 6x9.

Looking at The Linhof Camera Story, the difference between a 6x9 Technika and a 6x9 Super-Technika during the III/IV era is that a 6x9 Super-Technika has the attached top-mounted rangefinder-viewfinder with the viewfinder masks like the camera listed here on eBay, and if the book is telling the whole story, the III did not come in a "Super" version, only the IV. (To make matters more confusing, the 4x5" Super-Technika did not come with a built-in viewfinder/rangefinder like the 6x9 version, but it is still called a "Super").

If you go to the Large Format forum and post a query in this thread, Bob Salomon, the now retired wholesale representative for Linhof in the US can probably tell you, based on the serial number of the camera body (not the serial number of the lens), what model and production year it is--

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/forum/showthread.php?9975-Linhof-Serial-Numbers