tea/coffee toning on FB silver paper?

Murray@uptowngallery · Mar 4, 2008

I see that tea or coffee toning work just fine on alt-processes.

Does anyone know if they work on FB silver paper?

I assume they contribute nothing to longevity like selenium toning, but are pretty 'green'.

Thanks

Murray

bdial · Mar 4, 2008

Yes, it works, I've done it, but I don't have the prints anymore.

Muihlinn · Mar 4, 2008

works fine.
That was tea and coffee toned on ilford MGIV FB

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althought more than toned, I'd say stained.

Ole · Mar 4, 2008

On "conventional" prints, tea or coffee is staining, not toning.

The only case where it should be called toning is with cyanotypes where the tannins react with the image forming pigment.

Toffle · Mar 4, 2008

Has anyone here done any printing with coffee as a developing agent on FB paper? My experience is strictly with RC papers... Toning or staining... the effect is pleasing, though I have no idea of the archival qualities of this method. I have coffee prints that are a year old that look the same as the day I printed them.

Murray@uptowngallery · Mar 5, 2008

Thanks, all.

doughowk · Mar 5, 2008

Tim Rudman's Toning book has a beautiful example of tea-stained fiber print (p.108).

Monophoto · Mar 5, 2008

Tea and coffee don't actually "tone" a print - they stain the paper. The result is a image formed in silver, with the tonality associated with the fundamental design of the paper and chemistry, and with the paper stained to a color governed by by the tea or coffee.

Tom Barill did a series of large format images of plants that he stained with tea. He said that the cheap supermarket brand worked better than "good" tea.

Murray@uptowngallery · Mar 5, 2008

Analogous to 'bad' instant coffee being better for Caffenol than the uppity barrista brewed stuff :O)

cotdt · Mar 5, 2008

i throw my paper back into the developer for a couple hours and can get the same stains.

tim rudman · Mar 5, 2008

cotdt said:
i throw my paper back into the developer for a couple hours and can get the same stains.

Maybe.
But do they TASTE the same ?
Tim

pentaxuser · Mar 6, 2008

Shiny has a couple of prints stained with tea in the gallery now. Look good and process seems simple and cheap. He has kindly given some facts about his process. I think they are RC prints. My assumption is that the effect for FB would be similar but this is an assumption on my part. Have a look.

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