Square color slide in ..but not MF?

peter k. · Jul 18, 2015

Have a few of these slides.. from a friends hand me down, that passed away.

Its a color slide, in a narrower cardboard holder, that is the same external size of a standard 35mm holder, that I suppose could be projected with a 35mm side projector

Not medium format.. not 35mm .. so what is it, and what kind of camera shot it?

Hatchetman · Jul 18, 2015

127 super slide

Photo Engineer · Jul 18, 2015

Or 126.

peter k. · Jul 18, 2015

Thanks..
Son of a gun.. read about 126-127.. but never seen an image... crazy.,

MattKing · Jul 18, 2015

Or really esoteric - 135, using a Robot.

bdial · Jul 18, 2015

They look really impressive projected in a batch of standard 35mm slides.
Hasselblad has a back for that format, the "16S". Gets you four more frames on a roll, but doesn't make very efficient use of the film.

GRHazelton · Jul 18, 2015

I have a Komaflex S which uses 127. Sweet little 127 leaf shutter SLR. Sadly it needs shutter work and that doesn't come cheap, and the film is rare and expensive. But those Super Slides really are impressive mixed in with 35mm slides!

Sirius Glass · Jul 18, 2015

It is called a "Super Slide".

http://photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00Zjp0?start=0
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-67717.html

Xmas · Jul 18, 2015

They were called 'super slides' as a 'format' Kodak pushed 126 cameras really hard.

Days later the Ja flooded the market with easy to use SLRs...

cmacd123 · Jul 20, 2015

just to clarify , 127 produces images 45 by 45 mm so a 2X2 slide from 127 has a narrow frame around the outside. (the actual visible part is likely a bit smaller than 45mm

126 gave slides about 28 by 28 mm, still square but not so impressive

Robot and RAPID cameras also had a square format from 35mm film, but those were 24X24 mm and so were the least impressive.

If you plan you shots you can make superslides using a 645 camera by cropping your shot with a cutter. naturally that only works if you know at the time of shooting what part of the picture you plan to throw away.

MattKing · Jul 20, 2015

Some people used to mount slides with custom mounts, sized to effect a custom crop.

If you have some of those, the original film could be just about any size.

lonhahn · Jul 21, 2015

You used to go to the Golden Gate Bridge or Yosemite or places like that and be able to purchase brilliant 2"x2" slides that looked like super slides. I figured they were taken on a larger format camera than 127. Could this be cropped medium format like was mentioned above?

Sirius Glass · Jul 21, 2015

lonhahn said:
You used to go to the Golden Gate Bridge or Yosemite or places like that and be able to purchase brilliant 2"x2" slides that looked like super slides. I figured they were taken on a larger format camera than 127. Could this be cropped medium format like was mentioned above?

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ME Super · Jul 21, 2015

lonhahn said:
You used to go to the Golden Gate Bridge or Yosemite or places like that and be able to purchase brilliant 2"x2" slides that looked like super slides. I figured they were taken on a larger format camera than 127. Could this be cropped medium format like was mentioned above?

It is quite likely that the superslides were taken on 120 or 220 film and then cropped, actually. Medium format cameras, by and large, had better control over shutter speed and aperture than 127 cameras (Baby Rolleis and Yashica-44's are two notable exceptions - there may be others). It's also quite likely that these were shot on negative film and then printed onto a negative film with no masking that was intended for projection. Such a film would be similar to ECP film.

Ian Grant · Jul 21, 2015

Agfa had the Karar and then Papid 35mm cassettes that held 35mm film and the cameras were square format.

Kodak had 828 which is really the forerunner to 126, same sized roll film and square format cameras but it's in a fast loading light tight cassette with 126.

Ian

cmacd123 · Jul 22, 2015

lonhahn said:
You used to go to the Golden Gate Bridge or Yosemite or places like that and be able to purchase brilliant 2"x2" slides that looked like super slides. I figured they were taken on a larger format camera than 127. Could this be cropped medium format like was mentioned above?

PANA-VUE of Portland Oregon made made both the super slide size tour slide packs and also made Viewmaster reels.

They were big enough to get film stock custom slit for them. The Viewmaster reels were on a Kodachrome print stock, and they had their own Kodachrome line to process it. The big slides may have been made on vericolour print or eastman colur print, slit to suit their process. Vericolour was C-22 or C41 while Eastman Colour would be ECP or ECP2 in each case depending on When it was made.

All custom stuff, nothing off the shelf.

Other folks selling tour slides would likely use slide dupe materials or Motion Picture print stock. Again mass produced and probably from a pro size original printed down.

Xmas · Jul 22, 2015

lonhahn said:
You used to go to the Golden Gate Bridge or Yosemite or places like that and be able to purchase brilliant 2"x2" slides that looked like super slides. I figured they were taken on a larger format camera than 127. Could this be cropped medium format like was mentioned above?

Just as likely 35mm cropped square. When I gave the works plab 35mm colour slides to print they duped them on to 4x5 intranegative film.

Xmas · Jul 22, 2015

lonhahn said:
You used to go to the Golden Gate Bridge or Yosemite or places like that and be able to purchase brilliant 2"x2" slides that looked like super slides. I figured they were taken on a larger format camera than 127. Could this be cropped medium format like was mentioned above?

Just as likely 35mm cropped square. When I gave the works plab 35mm colour slides to print they duped them on to 4x5 intranegative film.

railwayman3 · Jul 23, 2015

cmacd123 said:
PANA-VUE of Portland Oregon made made both the super slide size tour slide packs and also made Viewmaster reels.

They were big enough to get film stock custom slit for them. The Viewmaster reels were on a Kodachrome print stock, and they had their own Kodachrome line to process it. The big slides may have been made on vericolour print or eastman colur print, slit to suit their process. Vericolour was C-22 or C41 while Eastman Colour would be ECP or ECP2 in each case depending on When it was made.

All custom stuff, nothing off the shelf.

Other folks selling tour slides would likely use slide dupe materials or Motion Picture print stock. Again mass produced and probably from a pro size original printed down.

I was trying to remember the brand name "Pana-Vue".....their "super-slide" sets of souvenir views were also extensively sold in the UK way back in the 60's and 70's.

Another firm which used large format negs printed onto 35mm slides was Woodmansterne, "Elfincolor" branded for most sets, and "Elfinchrome" for a few produced as reversal duplicates (I have sets of the latter for the Queens Coronation in 1953, and the US moon landings in 69). The slides were of exceptionally good quality when new, but used Eastmancolor stock for the neg-pos sets, so some have now lost their colour badly.

(Woodmansterne also had a large photo library, and are still in business producing greeting cards, etc.)

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