Split-grade with Slavich...

Mike Té · Jan 17, 2008

I was split-grading some Ilford MG FB; it was going well. Then I decided to try my new Slavich and just kept on split-grading...

Yes, the grade 3 stuff. It did end up looking pretty muddy.

...SIGH...

JBrunner · Jan 17, 2008

That's funny.

Alex Hawley · Jan 17, 2008

tmike said:
I was split-grading some Ilford MG FB; it was going well. Then I decided to try my new Slavich and just kept on split-grading...

Yes, the grade 3 stuff. It did end up looking pretty muddy.

...SIGH...

How can you split-grade print with graded paper? I though it was useful only with multi-grade.

JBrunner · Jan 17, 2008

Alex Hawley said:
How can you split-grade print with graded paper? I though it was useful only with multi-grade.

That's what makes it funny! I hope you didn't blow too many sheets.

Domin · Jan 17, 2008

Reminds me of the roll I've developed in Rodinal 0+100. I was pretty suprised with results until I remembered the dilution.

Mike Té · Jan 17, 2008

About six... I was on a roll.

I got some good prints from the Ilford MG at least. I'll give the Slavich another try tomorrow.

JBrunner said:
That's what makes it funny! I hope you didn't blow too many sheets.

Thomas Bertilsson · Jan 18, 2008

Mike, that's hilarious! I'd imagine you'd get pretty weak results with filtered light on graded paper. I struggled pretty good once printing with Kentmere Bromide paper and I had and Ilford filter in the upper compartment of my condenser housing. It took me a couple of sheets, mixing new chemistry, cleaning my trays, checking the enlarging lens, and looking twice at the negative before I got it.
Sometimes I just stop what I'm doing in the darkroom, look at myself and all of the goofy stuff around me and laugh out loud at what I'm doing. Us dark side people really are a little out there to be doing what we're doing.
Anyway, let us know how the Slavich behaves!
- Thomas

gainer · Jan 18, 2008

tmike said:
About six... I was on a roll.

I got some good prints from the Ilford MG at least. I'll give the Slavich another try tomorrow.

Maybe the Beers developers will work, but not the filters. I'm not talking about the kind you drink, I hope you know.

tac · Jan 18, 2008

Reminds me of the time I had the bright idea of a nice cold afternoon cocktail or five whilst printing. The results were not a pretty picture.

Bad Idea #36,476.

Mike Té · Jan 18, 2008

Good suggestion.

Yes, contrast control with Beer's is on a future To-Do list, but I won't get to it today. Today, I'll just do straight Slavich to get a feel for the paper.

(However, being Friday, some beers just might develop later in the afternoon )

gainer said:
Maybe the Beers developers will work, but not the filters. I'm not talking about the kind you drink, I hope you know.

dancqu · Jan 18, 2008

tmike said:
Yes, contrast control with Beer's is on a future To-Do list,
but I won't get to it today. Today, I'll just do straight Slavich
to get a feel for the paper.

I've tested Slavich along with three other papers, all Grade
2 Glossy FB. My batch of Slavich may have been mis-marked.
With Beer's 1 it consistently ran grade 3 + and Beer's 7
brought to 4 +.

Beer's won't give split results although it may give you
the gradation you are looking for. The SLIMT may be
your answer. A very easy Homebrew. Dan

Mike Té · Jan 18, 2008

SLIMT!

SLIMT! Wow, you're leaving me in your dust...

I just read up on it at UnblinkingEye; it's definitely going on the future To-Do list as well:

http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/LatentImageBleach/latentimagebleach.html

Thanks.

dancqu said:
I've tested Slavich along with three other papers, all Grade
2 Glossy FB. My batch of Slavich may have been mis-marked.
With Beer's 1 it consistently ran grade 3 + and Beer's 7
brought to 4 +.

Beer's won't give split results although it may give you
the gradation you are looking for. The SLIMT may be
your answer. A very easy Homebrew. Dan

Dwane · Jan 18, 2008

Thomas Bertilsson said:
Mike, that's hilarious! I'd imagine you'd get pretty weak results with filtered light on graded paper. I struggled pretty good once printing with Kentmere Bromide paper and I had and Ilford filter in the upper compartment of my condenser housing. It took me a couple of sheets, mixing new chemistry, cleaning my trays, checking the enlarging lens, and looking twice at the negative before I got it.
Sometimes I just stop what I'm doing in the darkroom, look at myself and all of the goofy stuff around me and laugh out loud at what I'm doing. Us dark side people really are a little out there to be doing what we're doing.
Anyway, let us know how the Slavich behaves!
- Thomas

Thomas, I feel your pain. Once while split grade printing with VC paper I did my first exposure with the 00 filter, then without thinking I placed the 5 filter in the filter drawer without removing the 00 filter. Went through all the obvious steps that you mentioned until I saw what I did. I didn't laugh out loud at the time - just added it to my "someday you'll laugh about this" list that I have (it's item #534 on the list.

srs5694 · Jan 18, 2008

Thomas Bertilsson said:
I'd imagine you'd get pretty weak results with filtered light on graded paper.

Actually, I'd expect it'd work fine so long as you used the right grade of paper and gave it enough exposure. ("Enough exposure" could be quite a lot if you used more than a trivial amount of yellow filtration, though.)

lee · Jan 18, 2008

you might adjust your neg development to fit on the Slavish graded paper. I understand that is a radical thought but it may be easier than the SLIMT process.

lee\c

Paul Howell · Jan 18, 2008

I spent an evening working with Varycon with my old Dupont filters, I put the Dupont filters above the lens in the lens cone. Cleaned up but forgot to remove the filter. A day or or later I printed with Salvich, did not even dawn on me the enlarger light was reddish, then could not figure out why the Salvich was printing so slow. Took 2 sheets before I figured it out.

dpurdy · Jan 18, 2008

HOw many beers does it take to get split vision?

Mike Té · Jan 18, 2008

Ah, that's better!

So, I managed to do it correctly today. Here's my first (presentable) effort with the Slavich:

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Amazing how much quicker things go without those filters!

Cheers.

(Now beers).

Alex Hawley · Jan 18, 2008

Love that Beers formula!

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