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Frank53

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Hi,
Just exposed and de veloped some ilford FP4+ Which expired in 1995. Exposed box speed, developed 20% extra in Xtol 1:1.
Looks ok, exept that the backing paper is copied on the negatives.
Does anyone know if there has been a problem with the backing paper around that time.
film has been in the fridge ever since. Maybe that was just a few years too long.
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Frank
 

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Backing paper plus humidity plus long exposure often equals wrapper offset, regardless how little of that was reported when the film was in date. Twenty-five years in the fridge is likely a main contributor...
 
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I can image that humidity is a bad thing for film, but it has been in the original sealed wrapping all that time. If you can’t trust that.....
 

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Two and a half decades is a long time for plastic and foil to keep all the moisture out. In fact, there's water in the gelatin (even when "fully dried") as well. If the temperature has cycled at all (fridge door opening to add or remove film from time to time might do it if the roll was in the door or at the front of a shelf), any moisture trapped inside the pouch will have had opportunities to move around.
 

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I can image that humidity is a bad thing for film, but it has been in the original sealed wrapping all that time. If you can’t trust that.....
You have had ink on paper pressed hard against a gelatin based emulsion designed to be chemically sensitive for more than a quarter century.
And that package may have gone through many changes of temperature.
Wrapper offset has always occurred, even if the frequency of occurrence waxes and wanes from time to time.
 

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I'm glad the thread went in this direction, because I can't remember one thing that happened in 1995. Must have been a quiet year.
 

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Well, Google says Israeli PM Rabin was assassinated, the OKC bombing killed a lot of folks (on 9/11/95), and O.J. Simpson was acquitted of the murder of his ex-wife.
 

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I'm glad the thread went in this direction, because I can't remember one thing that happened in 1995. Must have been a quiet year.

Iin 1995 I finished school, worked in a dairy factory for three months and then began my chemistry degree in Autumn. I remember it quite well. I remember that photography was not a topic for me, certainly not film. And I had never heard of people developing film themselves.

I was quite interested in digitisers, which capture pictures from video cameras, but that was too expensive a toy for me, then.

I also got my first (and only?) inkjet printer shortly before summer. The very first Epson Stylus Color (no number). That was nice, but thinking back, I had no means of creating my own pictures to print... youth.
 

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I'm glad the thread went in this direction, because I can't remember one thing that happened in 1995. Must have been a quiet year.
My wife and I were married in 1995.
That means it was a very good, and very memorable year :smile:.
 

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1995, ha! I still have Panatomic-X 35mm in my film fridge, bought that year and two years before when Kodak dumped its last stocks of this film on the Australian market. It processes and prints okay. No 120 rolls, I did have one I used in 1983 that did the same trick with the paper back numbers, I suspect it was a leftover from the 1960s I had been given as a throwaway. Still have those negs, never printed.

According to my notebook for the '90s, back then I processed everything in D76 1:1. Midyear I souped a roll of Tri-X a friend had taken in 1981 or 1982. Played a bit with the developer and got surprisingly good images out of it, my friend admitted to mixed feelings when I gave him a contact sheet, the images were all of his divorced wife, the farm he'd had to sell to pay her out, and their by then long-deceased dogs. Bittersweet memories.

That year I was two months in Indonesia, trying to get work (in architecture design) from various Suharto government agencies but they weren't giving any work to uncorrupt foreigners, so I bailed out. I had two Nikkormat ELs with me and shot a lot of color neg film. Mostly happy-crappy snaps as my brain was working elsewhere, I've now destroyed almost all those images. The ELs were sold to someone last December, he is using them and they still work okay. Good gear lasts a long time.

Back home i Melbourne, several good work contracts came my way and I maxed my credit card to buy my first Contax G1 and the then-popular 28-45-90 combo. I still have this kit, also three other G1 bodies. They are among the few film cameras I still use. Good gear again. The Zeiss G lenses are amazing optical performers. I've written enough about the G series before, so I'll say no more.

According to my notes I sold A$3500 in images to stock clients. So an average year for me.

That year I made the (for me, difficult) decision that freelance photography and writing were no longer my way and it was time to settle to a new profession - in my case, architectural design. Which lasted until 2012 when I retired. Many ups and downs along the way. In good years I had more money to buy good photo gear (Hasselblads, now sold), in bad years I had to do contract project work for government agencies to keep my practice going. My professional life, in a paragraph.

Now happily retired, still into photography but Covid has rather sapped my motivation. Waiting for lockdowns to lift so I can get back to film work (B&W) and limited travel for image-making. Weather is warming up here in Victoria (Australia), so going out and camera-carrying days lie ahead.

My darkroom consisted of a venerable Durst 66 with a pitted matched lens, I used this to make amazing prints, far better than I produce nowadays with my upmarket VC7700 and Nikkors. I still have paper left from that time, all FB so still good. I used Ilford chemistry for print making, now I mix my own D76 and D72, occasionally Adox MQ-borax or Thornton's two bath with scales and raw chemistry and source whatever fixer I can at the best price.

All this deja vu, wow.

1996 was more memorable. Much more photography. One day midyear I got on an express bus from Malang, East Java to Solo, Central Java and sat next to my now partner, a much younger tourist from Malaysia on a backpack trip. We clicked, connected and coupled in 1997 and we are still together. So my life in all ways settled and I found my ideal situation and true happiness in the '90s.
 

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I got some sealed rolls of film from about that time and their was some rust on the spool on at least one. (yes, the spools of roll film were once made of metal)
 

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Went to the Dayton OH Hamfest, saw the G4 Camaro which I bought and shipped back to Australia. It was a good year for me. Only 2 cameras in the house. Now there's over 50.
 

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In 1995, I went out and bought what I thought was the best camera I could afford (not being well-informed on the matter), a Vivitar Series 1 autofocus point-and-shoot. It was actually more than I could afford.
I still have it... Wonder where it is?
 

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In 1995 I started law school and had a Nikon N50 with the 35-80mm f/4-5.6D-AF (metal mount) zoom lens. Still have the lens, and it's still remarkably good.
 

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Well, Google says Israeli PM Rabin was assassinated, the OKC bombing killed a lot of folks (on 9/11/95), and O.J. Simpson was acquitted of the murder of his ex-wife.

The year of the Bronco
 
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I was too busy learning long division around that time to take any photos. I do recall hearing the Simpson verdict being broadcast over the cafeteria radio... the crescendo of cheers from a roomful of my 10 year old peers was simultaneously horrifying and elucidating.
 

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Photographically, I was on a hiatus. I put my Spotmatic F away sometime in the mid-1980s (don't recall why, after all this time, likely budget for film and processing), and didn't shoot any film again until 2002 or so.
 

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1995 was the first season for the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Carolina Panthers. I don’t remember hearing of backing paper transfer until 5-6 years ago. Maybe 10.
 

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5th grade, my team won 100 games and went to the World Series for the first time in forever. Some idiot made us all scared of Ryder trucks, Super NES was king and we still used NetScape. We got our fist CD player. Pop was driving a 75 Cadillac because it was large and we got it really cheap.
 

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I don’t remember hearing of backing paper transfer until 5-6 years ago. Maybe 10.

I saw wrapper offset as far back as the 1970s -- but never knew what to call it until about '05, and hadn't clicked on it being from backing contact with the emulsion or being a frame or so off; I thought it was due to through-paper fogging from direct sunlight on the red window.
 

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I don’t remember hearing of backing paper transfer until 5-6 years ago. Maybe 10.
I have been aware of it since the 1970s, but only because I was around camera stores and labs and people in customer service departments.
I didn't actually encounter it myself until relatively recently.
I don't know whether my Dad ever had to deal with it - from 1961 on he mostly dealt with Kodachrome and Ektachrome, and nothing larger than 135.
Although it might have been encountered with 828 Kodachrome - I wish he was still around to ask.
 
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