Some Kodak B&W Film Deletions

Darkroom317 · Feb 5, 2010

How much of a difference is there between TXP and TX?

Ektagraphic · Feb 5, 2010

This stinks. It is odd that they will keep the film in 4X5. Why would they make an emulsion just for one 4x5. I would image the same fate is coming very soon for E200. I hope that the Ektachromes can remain unchanged though. Does anyone know when they came out with the Tri-X 320?

Sirius Glass · Feb 5, 2010

Ira Rush said:
Yes, I stand corrected.

I just received the following link from my sources, which now makes me think that perhaps they were waiting for the right time to announce.

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...filmAnnouncements.jhtml?pq-path=13319/2300263

Looks like I need to stock up on TXP 220/120

It says:

KODAK PROFESSIONAL Film Announcements

February 5, 2010

Due to significantly decreased sales volumes, Kodak is retiring two medium-format KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Films.

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Film / 320TXP / 120 pro-pack 5 rolls / CAT 8188914
KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Film / 320TXP / 220 pro-pack 5 rolls / CAT 8286825

Based on current sales, product is expected to be available in the market through March 2010.
Suggested replacement:

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 400 Film / TX120 / CAT 1965599

Note: pro-pack 5 rolls.
Is it or was it available as single rolls?

Steve

David A. Goldfarb · Feb 5, 2010

Darkroom317 said:
How much of a difference is there between TPX and TX?

TXP has a longer toe, so you might say it has the ability to compress shadows and create a stronger sense of line, but on the other hand, it requires more control to prevent that from being just loss of shadow detail. TX has a shorter toe and is more forgiving of slight underexposure and lends itself a bit more to pushing. Sometimes TXP is recommended more as a studio film, because you can control the lighting, but it's fine outdoors as long as you place the shadows carefully and adjust development for the lighting conditions.

David A. Goldfarb · Feb 5, 2010

TXP sheet includes 4x5, 5x7, and 8x10, and there have in recent years been special cuttings of 11x14, 7x17, and possibly other formats.

SuzanneR · Feb 5, 2010

Sirius Glass said:
It says:
KODAK PROFESSIONAL Film Announcements

February 5, 2010

Due to significantly decreased sales volumes, Kodak is retiring two medium-format KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Films.

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Film / 320TXP / 120 pro-pack 5 rolls / CAT 8188914

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Film / 320TXP / 220 pro-pack 5 rolls / CAT 8286825

Based on current sales, product is expected to be available in the market through March 2010.
Suggested replacement:

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 400 Film / TX120 / CAT 1965599

Note: pro-pack 5 rolls.
Is it or was it available as single rolls?

Steve

B&H sells single rolls. I've always bought the pro-packs. I don't think TXT is sold in pro-packs of 5 rolls, though.

pelerin · Feb 5, 2010

Ian Grant said:
<SNIP>
120 isn't shot like 35mm it's slightly more contemplative, not all cameras or film backs can take it, some don't like processing it, and it's rarely easy to buy (UK).

<SNIP>

Ian

Hi,
...and 220 is perhaps not shot like 120? There was a day when the majority driver of the market for 120 was event shooters and similar commercial applications. I doubt that shooting weddings etc., even in medium format, can be described as "contemplative." 220 suited this market, the longer frame counts between back changes could be an advantage in a high pressure environment where the days work would see the photographer power through many rolls of film. When this market existed both 120 and 220 were readily available. (at least here in the SF area) If we roll the clock back 10 years, I can think of several places that you could have simply walked in a purchased case lots over the counter, commercial processing was also readily available.
Celac

Ektagraphic · Feb 5, 2010

They should make the Tri-X 400 in 220

Sirius Glass · Feb 5, 2010

Ektagraphic said:
They should make the Tri-X 400 in 220

If they did, I would buy A-24 backs and 220 Hewes reels.

Steve

mikebarger · Feb 5, 2010

I'd like to see it in 4x5, I use HP5+ now, but only get 200 out of it.

Mike

David A. Goldfarb · Feb 5, 2010

Posted wirelessly..

mikebarger said:
I'd like to see it in 4x5, I use HP5+ now, but only get 200 out of it.

Mike

TXP, EI 640, acufine. HP5+/acufine may be faster.

mikebarger · Feb 5, 2010

I'm a HC110 and 510 pyro guy. Both only give me 200 with HP5+ in 4x5. I do get the full 400 with Tri-x 400 in 120. I know Jay said he got the full 400 with HP5+ in 510 pyro so it must be something else in my process.

Mike

Ira Rush · Feb 5, 2010

Sirius Glass said:
It says:
KODAK PROFESSIONAL Film – Announcements

Note: pro-pack 5 rolls.

Is it or was it available as single rolls?

Steve

Steve,

I usually buy TXP 320 in 220 or 120 in a Pro-Pack (5) rolls.

On occassion, I have bought 1 or 2 rolls, but they usually just "broke open" a pro-pack.

Sold individually, I kind of doubt it, Tri-X 400 in 120 I know is sold in single rolls, but for me, my concern is that TXP 320 was the ONLY 220 B&W film around, at least up till now.

Gee I wonder if I can find anyone who wants to buy a ton of 220 Hassy backs (LOL ), I'll even throw in the Brooklyn Bridge... real cheap

B&Wpositive · Feb 5, 2010

Sirius Glass said:
It says:
KODAK PROFESSIONAL Film – AnnouncementsFebruary 5, 2010

Due to significantly decreased sales volumes, Kodak is retiring two medium-format KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Films.

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Film / 320TXP / 120 pro-pack 5 rolls / CAT 8188914

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 320 Film / 320TXP / 220 pro-pack 5 rolls / CAT 8286825

Based on current sales, product is expected to be available in the market through March 2010.
Suggested replacement:

KODAK PROFESSIONAL TRI-X 400 Film / TX120 / CAT 1965599

Note: pro-pack 5 rolls.

So, P3200 may not be discontinued yet after all. The absence of bad news is potential good news...at least for P3200.

That said, there have been rumors about P3200 for a while now. And Freestyle recently sold off P3200 with a 4/2010 expiration. And now they say it has a 5/2010 expiration. I wonder if this is just what Freestyle is selling, or if all P3200 has similar short dating lately. Anyone buy some P3200 from B&H, etc, lately? What was the expiration date?

nickrapak · Feb 5, 2010

That may be so, but with the rumors circulating around P3200, I have a feeling that this coating will be the last.

B&Wpositive · Feb 5, 2010

nickrapak said:
That may be so, but with the rumors circulating around P3200, I have a feeling that this coating will be the last.

What's "this" coating?

df cardwell · Feb 5, 2010

SuzanneR said:
Well, just ordered some 220 format TXP. Bumming that it may be discontinued, though I have to say I've been using more of the Tri-x 400 more frequently. I find it a bit more versatile than the TXP even though it's only available in 120 format.

Although it's not as fast a film, I think I might have to give Ilford Fp4 a go... I understand it's quite similar to TXP. Anyone have an opinion about that?

SUZANNE: TMY2 No question.

Chazzy · Feb 5, 2010

B&H has only about 135 rolls of TXP in 220 left.

SuzanneR · Feb 5, 2010

df cardwell said:
SUZANNE: TMY2 No question.

ok... I'll give it a go!!

kristopher_lawrence · Feb 5, 2010

YAY! YAY! YAY!

P3200 is still there for the moment! phew! I will have some time to stock up.

Also, regarding expiry dates, the last rolls I bought were dated 10/10 (In Canada)

Time to raise money, and to buy a freezer I guess.

Please Kodak, give us at least 6 months before discontinuating... So we could stock up.

Kris

peri24 · Feb 5, 2010

TMZ rules!!

B&Wpositive · Feb 5, 2010

peri24 said:
TMZ rules!!

+10,000

Sirius Glass · Feb 5, 2010

Ira Rush said:
Steve,

I usually buy TXP 320 in 220 or 120 in a Pro-Pack (5) rolls.

On occassion, I have bought 1 or 2 rolls, but they usually just "broke open" a pro-pack.

Sold individually, I kind of doubt it, Tri-X 400 in 120 I know is sold in single rolls, but for me, my concern is that TXP 320 was the ONLY 220 B&W film around, at least up till now.

Gee I wonder if I can find anyone who wants to buy a ton of 220 Hassy backs (LOL ), I'll even throw in the Brooklyn Bridge... real cheap

From what the B&H website posted, I would expect two boxes of five rolls each.

Steve

nickrapak · Feb 5, 2010

B&Wpositive said:
What's "this" coating?

Whatever the current coating that they are spooling is.

Moopheus · Feb 5, 2010

2F/2F said:
Do you see marker manufacturers discontinuing certain colors of markers simply because they are not selling as well as others? No. Because all colors are essential to attract people to the set.

Actually, Crayola changes their color mix occasionally. And every now and then Col-Erase threatens to discontinue Carmine Red pencils, which is one of the standard editorial colors. Then every freelancer I know freaks out.

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