Some Kodak B&W Film Deletions

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Tri-X 400 35mm 36exp. $3.99........ $0.99 more than Foma..........NOT over $5

OK there have been some price rises but when I placed a large order last year these were the prices for 120 film, fom my main supplier (assume £1=$1.60:

2009 Feb/March
Fompapan 100 --------- £2.01
Fompapan 200 --------- £2.42


Ilford Delta 100 or 400 -- £2.07

Neopan 100/400 --------- £2.36

Tmax 100/400 ---------- £3.18

Now that balance has changed, and I've added FP4+ as a possible film choicem but Fuji are particularly competitive.

2010 Feb
Fompapan 100 --------- £1.65
Fompapan 200 --------- £1.97

Ilford Delta 100 or 400 -- £3.03
FP4+ - - - - - - - - - - - £2.36

Neopan 100/400 --------- £2.37

Tmax 100/400 ---------- £3.73

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TXP/220 arrived from Freestyle. I usually only buy two or three Pro-Packs at a time, but just a heads up if you're buying for the freezer, they come four Pro-Packs to a brick, so it makes sense to order in multiples of 20 rolls.
 

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Sold out at Hunt's too, but it shows up at Adorama, though their website doesn't always seem to be up to date about what is in stock.
 

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I got mine from Adorama -- called in the order because their website is not always reliable. Glazers's still has it, at least the website says so.
 

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After reading all the "scratches or defects on my film" post, the last thing I would waste my money on, is second rate film. I have been tempted to try some Fuji B&W but seem to recall it curls quite a bit.

I wouldn't characterize Foma as second-rate. But Shanghai and Lucky films, yes.

Fuji B&W film doesn't curl much at all and is very high quality - easily on par with Kodak. You seriously haven't shot any Neopan, Acros, etc. by now?
 

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I certainly respect everyone's opinion on what is a second tier product, but I have zero problems calling Foma second tier solely on their poor QA performance. They clean that up, and sustain it, I'll call them first tier. I've seen a lot of really nice prints shot on Foma, but I can't stand not knowing if the film I shooting will hold up it's end of the bargain. I make enough mistakes on my own, don't need to worry about the film.

I've not used any of the Fuji products in B&W, only Kodak and Ilford. Oh, and the three of rolls of Foma that was missed by the QA department. Someone else got to shoot the other seven rolls I bought.

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I've not used any of the Fuji products in B&W, only Kodak and Ilford. Oh, and the three of rolls of Foma that was missed by the QA department. Someone else got to shoot the other seven rolls I bought.

Mike

Mike, I highly recommend you try some Neopan or Acros. Neopan 400 and 1600 are classics - with the added bonus that both have the same processing times allowing mixed 400/1600 processing.

Very beautiful films.
 

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What a great story...thanks very much for taking the time to write down the details and share the story with us.
 

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I'm sure they're great films, I just haven't learned everything I need to know about Tri-x 400 in 120 and HP5+ in 4x5. Since I'm a slow learner, I'll keep focused on these.

Mike
 

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I was in Freestyle today. Nobody working there had any idea about the loss of TXP 120 and 220.

All they said about Fuji Reala 120 was that they have not had it in a while.
 

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Agree 100%, I just had too many issues with Efke, black spots on my IR820, flecks of missing emulsion on KB-25, no good, especially when using it in a paid scenario. Kodak, Ilford, no issues, I feel secure in using it, and I don't need the distraction of feeling insecure about a medium I use.....that is like playing a guitar that goes out of tune all the time, you just can't get your mojo on like that.

10 Pro Packs of 320 ordered and on the way, I only have one 220 back for my blads, so that ought to do the trick.
 
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Fuji is right up there with Ilford and Kodak, Fotch and PKM-25. IME, there is no reason at all to discount it for reasons of quality (just qualities, like with all films). I generally do not like the "look" of Fuji b/w film, but I do still use it (mostly the 100 stand developed, or at least pulled, for for night pix, due to its amazing reciprocity maintenance during long exposures).
 

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Fomapan 200 has changed its name a few times from "Fomapan 200T" (which Kodak apparently didn't like), to "Foma Creativ 200," to whatever it is now--Fomapan 200 I think.
 

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David, viridari is partially correct the film has had to be re-formulated because a component chemical used in the emulsion is no longer manufactured, but this is a temporary hiatus as Foma have been reported as testing the newer version which is due to be produced fairly soon.

Meanwhile some (most) suppliers have run out of stock.

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That's right. I haven't ordered it in a while, and I'd forgotten that that was still going on.
 

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Ilford not discontinuing anything?

How about more or less everything Kentmere ever sold?
 

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All statements on the financial health of Ilford are purely speculative as they do not release any financial statements.

Let's also keep in mind that Ilford has been dumping the former Kentmere's product line right and left making all sorts of pronouncements regarding material availability as justification that not everybody finds particularly convincing.
 

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So it's knock Ilford now is it ?

Those of us who went on the Ilford factory tour 14-15 months ago were given very frank information by the Ilford management on why some Kentmere products couldn't be made at Mobberley.

Simon Galley has posted similar information on this website about the discontinued Kentmere products and most are being replaced by alternatives.

All companies in the UK have to file financial returns to Companies House and anyone can pay to receive a copy of those accounts.

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