Slow Speed Films

Bruce Watson · Apr 8, 2008

tiberiustibz said:
Depends if you blow it up to 4x5 feet

I've made some 12x enlargements of 5x4 Tri-X - 60 inch long prints that other people tell me appear grainless to them. It's all in the processing

tiberiustibz said:
I shoot TMAX 100 4x5s, cuz that's what my school has.

I can't help with that, sorry.

tiberiustibz said:
If your film is slower, it really won't make any difference in terms of motion (a more pleasing blurred effect than a shorter shutter speed)

Two stops more speed really does make a difference for me. Two stops slower means some of my work isn't possible. You might not understand it, but that doesn't make it any less true.

tiberiustibz said:
and it will give you less grain.

As I stated earlier, graininess really isn't a concern of mine.

tiberiustibz said:
I see no advantage.

I know you don't. But other photographers do see the advantage. Enough so that Kodak maintains an R&D budget for work to improve their high speed films. I'm just sayin'...

bobwysiwyg · Apr 8, 2008

Peter De Smidt said:
I'd recommend D76 1+1. It's a great developer, and it's what everything else is compared to. Once you know it well, you can decide on what different attributes you might like, if you find any, and you can then go looking for something else to compare with the D76.

Thanks, D-76 was the plan since I'm more familiar with it. I was curious about advantages/characteristics of the others. I guess I leave that for now.

AgX · Apr 8, 2008

Tim Gray said:
...all those 3rd tier ISO 25/50 films ...

Tim,
What do you mean by that?

Neal · Apr 8, 2008

Dear bobwysiwyg,

Inserting the extra sheet is a waste of paper. Much better information online these days.

You can find the data sheet here: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4016/f4016.pdf

Neal Wydra

bobwysiwyg · Apr 8, 2008

Thanks Neal, figured it was cost, besides I doubt all that would fit on the data sheets I remember.

Tim Gray · Apr 8, 2008

AgX said:
Tim,
What do you mean by that?

Not that there's anything wrong with them, just the non-Kodak, Ilford, and Fuji companies. Maybe I should call them 2nd tier manufacturers - just not the big boys.

They seem to have a bunch of more esoteric films like ISO 25 B&W film that I've never really tried. Efke, Adox, Maco, Rollei, etc. They sound like a lot of fun and people get great results, but I can never figure out which ones are actually different and not repackaged, etc. There just seems to me to be a pretty good selection of slower films out there, especially with the new Techpan equivalent that just came to market.

Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe its only Efke - they have a 25 right?

All I know is that i have 80 rolls of Gekko 100. I think its like UP100+, which I think is Maco. That's enough slow film for me to get through before I experiment with anything else. That and the bulk rolls of Plus-X, the Kodachrome, the...

Jim Fitzgerald · Apr 8, 2008

Tim Gray said:
Not that there's anything wrong with them, just the non-Kodak, Ilford, and Fuji companies. Maybe I should call them 2nd tier manufacturers - just not the big boys.

They seem to have a bunch of more esoteric films like ISO 25 B&W film that I've never really tried. Efke, Adox, Maco, Rollei, etc. They sound like a lot of fun and people get great results, but I can never figure out which ones are actually different and not repackaged, etc. There just seems to me to be a pretty good selection of slower films out there, especially with the new Techpan equivalent that just came to market.

Then again, I could be wrong. Maybe its only Efke - they have a 25 right?

All I know is that i have 80 rolls of Gekko 100. I think its like UP100+, which I think is Maco. That's enough slow film for me to get through before I experiment with anything else. That and the bulk rolls of Plus-X, the Kodachrome, the...

Efke-25 yes it is nice and the reciprocity is not all that bad. Try some.

JIm

AgX · Apr 9, 2008

Tim,

Those `esoteric´ films are manufactured by

Kodak,
Agfa,
Filmotec,
Efke

As some of them are new films in the meaning of a film-developer combo yielding totally different results than originally thought of by their designers and those labs behind these combos are small you might call them esoteric in that sense...

Tim Gray · Apr 9, 2008

I think I call them more esoteric, because at least here in most places in the US, you just don't see them on the shelves of most photo stores. You have to hunt them out.

And the Techpan equiv isn't made by Kodak. I thought it was Maco. I forget what it's called though...

Jacques D. · Apr 9, 2008

Tim Gray said:
And the Techpan equiv isn't made by Kodak. I thought it was Maco. I forget what it's called though...

The new Tech Pan is marketed by Maco under the Rollei brand and is made by Agfa-Gevaert in Belgium. It is called Rollei Advanced Technical Pan.

http://macodirect.de/rollei-advanced-c-1_6_56_263.html

http://www.dr5.com/atp.html

Kind regards,

Jacques

AgX · Apr 9, 2008

Jaques,
there have been two new Tech Pans released:

Rollei ATP

Gigabitfilm GTP

both of them with their different proprietory chemistry, both coated to the same ISO standards.

Though the latter is half-hearted marketed.

Jacques D. · Apr 9, 2008

AgX said:
Jaques,
there have been two new Tech Pans released:

Rollei ATP

Gigabitfilm GTP

both of them with their different proprietory chemistry, both coated to the same ISO standards.

Though the latter is half-hearted marketed.

Right AgX,

Correct me if I am wrong, I think that both are basically the same film, both made by Agfa Gevaert. I have no experience with the Gigabitfilm. Furthermore there is also the Adox CMS 20, also made by Agfa-Gevaert but also with propietary chemistry.

Kind regards,

Jacques

AgX · Apr 9, 2008

Concerning the TPs this question of being based on the same raw-film was raised in a german forum and found no answer, one of the companies representatives referred to a legal matter...

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