Are you one of those people I'm still scratching my heads about who bought a brick of 120 KC64 on ebay? I once saw one go for $250 last year. Still not quite sure what those people were thinking.
As another glib soul pointed out some scores of postings ago, the thing we have to come to grip with is that *ALL* silver based imaging is now an "alternative" process. I don't say that digital has "won" because I don't think it's a winning or loosing proposition. Electronic/Digital has outstripped Chemical based imaging in the same way that early photography outstripped studio portrait painters, but I can walk into any craft store in town and still find pre-stretched canvas, Grumbacher paints, and row after row of brushes. It didn't die, it just moved into a different niche. The same is happening to chemical based imaging. That doesn't mean I'm changing what I do. I'm still doing what I want, because in this hobby, I'm in the artists role. I care more about the product than a profit.
MB
Hey tiberius, I bought 35mm Kodachrome 64 from the same guy, which also expired in 1989. I have shoot about 80 rolls of it, and exposure at EI 50 yields consistent excellent results. There is extra film on both ends of K-14 120 film. If you use an adjustable plastic reel, most allow for 220, so it would all fit (I'm a big stainless steel supporter, but what I say is true). Yeah, Kodak might make it if someone custom ordered a master roll; however, they might not confection the stuff, so whoever bought it might have to send it to Ilford for 120 confectioning. I mean, I seriously doubt that Kodak has enough Kodachrome K-14 120 backing paper lying around.
They probably print backing paper on an as needed basis. The real issue is, if someone ordered a master roll cut into 120 size. They also want a 120 size K14 processing machine......
They probably print backing paper on an as needed basis. The real issue is, if someone ordered a master roll cut into 120 size. They also want a 120 size K14 processing machine......
You would think that...it is the most logical choice, but Kodak made a really big deal about printing it for 120 Ektar 100 (the new stuff).
Why would Kodak complain about something like that, unless it was more difficult to do than we are imagining? I mean, I hope that Kodak does not whine needlessly.
Don't forget the cost to do one backing paper for the first roll probably costs $100,000, you need to design the paper, make the master press plates, etc. With K64 since they have already printing a few million it probably costs pennies per.
That makes sense, but I would have no qualm with Ilford using their generic backing paper...heck, if we could get enough people interested to make it financially feasible, I would get Kodak to ship a master roll of Ektar 100 over to Ilford for 120 confectioning with generic backing paper. : )
That makes sense, but I would have no qualm with Ilford using their generic backing paper...heck, if we could get enough people interested to make it financially feasible, I would get Kodak to ship a master roll of Ektar 100 over to Ilford for 120 confectioning with generic backing paper. : )
Personally I would have no problem with Kodak doing the same thing, simply use a generic paper for all films, you would only need two papers, one for 120 the other for 220, heck they could use generic foil packages as well, simply make a sticker that has the name, speed and size (120 or 220) of the film, and stick it on. Best of course would be to use a removable glue on the sticker, so that you could peel it off and stick it on the back of the camera/film back. This would be like the 35mm cameras that had the little frame for the paper film box end. Of course you still need film boxes that are different, although, if your buying a brick, I see nothing wrong with simply shrink wrapping a bunch of foil packs, who needs boxes......
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