Slide cassettes for a Zeiss Ikon Ikolux AJ24 medium form at Slide Projector?

[Hubigpielover]

Was given a zeiss ikon ikolux aj 24 automatic slide projector but it doesn’t have the cassette. Can’t find any online but saw some universal cassettes.

Will they work?

 

[MattKing]

I've edited your thread title, in hopes of attracting useful responses. Good luck - my medium format projectors didn't/don't use cassettes, so I can't help you.

 

[AgX]

I assume the proper US term is "straight tray".


Anyway, I am into slide projectors, but was not even aware of its existence, moreover I wonder how this german model ended in the USA. A country where they did not need to wait for a german projector to arrive...

The type of tray is the "Universalmagazin" or "Gemeinschaftsmagazin", the most ubiquous of the many german trays.

 

[Hubigpielover]

I've edited your thread title, in hopes of attracting useful responses. Good luck - my medium format projectors didn't/don't use cassettes, so I can't help you.

Thanks!

 

[Hubigpielover]

I assume the proper US term is "straight tray".


Anyway, I am into slide projectors, but was not even aware of its existence, moreover I wonder how this german model ended in the USA. A country where they did not need to wait for a german projector to arrive...

The type of tray is the "Universalmagazin" or "Gemeinschaftsmagazin", the most ubiquous of the many german trays.

Thanks for the response. I have no clue but it has a US plug. Maybe someone stationed in Germany at one of the US bases.

I am hoping universal means that I can get this one. It looks like it will fit.

Link

 

[MattKing]

We appear to have a difference in nomenclature here. I would call that item referred to in the link a slide tray, not a cassette.
FWIW, those trays work/worked in both my current Rollei projector and the Kindermann projector I used to have.

 

[Hubigpielover]

We appear to have a difference in nomenclature here. I would call that item referred to in the link a slide tray, not a cassette.
FWIW, those trays work/worked in both my current Rollei projector and the Kindermann projector I used to have.

Probably, that's what happens when you let a cajun on the internet. All jokes aside, I was shooting blind on what to call it and a google result returned cassette.

Thanks for the help.

 

[itsdoable]

I have several boxes of NOS Rollei 6x6 slide trays which work on my Rollei P11 projector. If they are compatible, you are welcome to a few.

 

[AgX]

The one the OP needs is this one:

https://mediafix.at/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_0043-958x795.jpg

There are several other german ones, including ones with a slight resemblance like LKM and CS, but at anything but a short glance the differences would be clear.

Tricky is a model of MF slide tray which looks so similar that one seeing it on a photo on its own most likely would consider same with just cosmetic differences.
And indeed, the OP hinted at the MF version at the link he gave!
But the Ikolux AJ24 is a 35mm projector!

As a reference has been made to the P11 projector, which takes both trays, here a rare photo showing both.
The 35mm one is the sample next to the projector!

 

[AgX]

I have no clue but it has a US plug. Maybe someone stationed in Germany at one of the US bases.

Interesting idea. Your projector has a loose mains cable and a voltage selector. If that selection includes 110V (60Hz) then maybe Zeiss-Ikon or the PX-store added a US mains cable for this clientele. So that the soldier could take it home, which of course made it more attractive.

 

[Hubigpielover]

I have several boxes of NOS Rollei 6x6 slide trays which work on my Rollei P11 projector. If they are compatible, you are welcome to a few.

Thanks, I will let you know. From what I am understanding they might be universal.

The one the OP needs is this one:

https://mediafix.at/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_0043-958x795.jpg

There are several other german ones, including ones with a slight resemblance like LKM and CS, but at anything but a short glance the differences would be clear.

Tricky is a model of MF slide tray which looks so similar that one seeing it on a photo on its own most likely would consider same with just cosmetic differences.
And indeed, the OP hinted at the MF version at the link he gave!
But the Ikolux AJ24 is a 35mm projector!

As a reference has been made to the P11 projector, which takes both trays, here a rare photo showing both.
The 35mm one is the sample next to the projector!


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Interesting idea. Your projector has a loose mains cable and a voltage selector. If that selection includes 110V (60Hz) then maybe Zeiss-Ikon or the PX-store added a US mains cable for this clientele. So that the soldier could take it home, which of course made it more attractive.

I was wrong. It is an AN 24. For some reason I thought it was AJ 24.

So would a rollie slide tray work in mine? They look alike.

 

[AgX]

I was wrong. It is an AN 24. For some reason I thought it was AJ 24.

So would a rollie slide tray work in mine? They look alike.

I am NOT aware of any Zeiss-Ikon MF projector with a tray.

 

[Hubigpielover]

I am NOT aware of any Zeiss-Ikon MF projector with a tray.

I will post a picture manana.

 

[Hubigpielover]

As promised, here are the pictures.

First

Second

 

[AgX]

You got a 35mm (5x5cm slide mount) projector. It is basically the same as the AJ24.


You got the older version with a plain incandescent lamp. The AJ version likely got a halogen incandescent lamp.

 

[Hubigpielover]

You got a 35mm (5x5cm slide mount) projector. It is basically the same as the AJ24.


You got the older version with a plain incandescent lamp. The AJ version likely got a halogen incandescent lamp.

Well shit, it was supposed to be a medium format one. Now I have two! Thanks for the help everyone.

 

[AgX]

Medium Format tray-projectors were a rarity amongst german manufacturers. Only three manufacturers come to my mind. And in that period only Rollei with its P11.

And in about 15 years I came locally across for sale just 3 samples of MF tray-projectors.

 

[Anaxagore]

Only three manufacturers come to my mind.

I suppose Rollei and Götschmann are the first two, Kindermann the third (Hasselblad/Zett uses a carousel rather than a tray) ? I’m curious about what was the market for such projectors during their golden age.

 

[AgX]

Concerning german manufacturers only Kindermann, Liesegang and Rollei made medium-format tray projectors.

I left out Götschmann etc. due to being obscure and Zett as not producing such for themselves.