jay moussy
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Sell them!
We have a goofball, here, on Cape Cod, selling his pine needles on CL - wait until he hears about photo developing applications.. prices will go up!
fantastic!!
thanks. we have lots of pine needles here
I've never used rodinal, never used tea, never used pyro or its cousin, pyrocat ...Once upon a time Rodinal was also occasionally used to develop paper.
Anyway you've got options but honestly since you have the necessary ingredients just make some D-72. The measurements don't need to be perfect.
Hydroquinone, Metol, sodium sulfite, KBr, maybe a couple other things. You have a "universal kit" that will last forever. All anyone really needs is D52, D72 and D76 to cover everything.
can anyone tell me if there are any simple paper developers, like 2 simple ingredients ( a la D23 for film )
ive run low on my standbys and I don't want to deal with mail order or going to my local store to buy something
if I can make something simple here.
I've looked through the recipe / resources section and everything is so like lots of ingredients... any suggestions ?
You need a minimum of 3 (metol, sulfite, carbonate) and probably some KBr to control fog, so call it 4. Not so bad.
I'd say, You'll need a minimum of four; a development agent, an accelerator, preservative and a restrainer any less and you traded print quality for simplicity.You need a minimum of 3 (metol, sulfite, carbonate) and probably some KBr to control fog, so call it 4. Not so bad.
Ilford has wonderful Phenidone paper formulasPerfecto!! This is what I've been saying to all the young darkroom workers I've met in the past 30 years.
Now what to do with the kilo of Phenidone I have stored...
Because it stains the paper base and the emulsion. It'll be hopeless with fiber based paper and still annoyingly compromised with RC/PE.If good for film, why not paper?
Wow! Now there's a combination that I haven't seen or tried yet!"Recipe:
1. Boil a small bunch of pine needles in 8 ounces of tap water for a few minutes, then allow to cool.
2. Add 4 teaspoons of arm and hammer washing soda.
3. Add 1/2 teaspoons of iodized salt. (optional) The salt was added to slow down the development time.
4. Chilled to 20c/68f degrees. Works at room temperature at an faster development time.
5. Tray develop under a safe light."
I too am surrounded by them - so what does he sell the needles as being good for? I'm really curious now.Sell them!
We have a goofball, here, on Cape Cod, selling his pine needles on CL - wait until he hears about photo developing applications.. prices will go up!
Has nobody in your group of caffenol-addicts come up with a coffee-based paper developer? And if not, why not?
I'm getting ready to revive my experimenting with caffenol (last time I looked into it was in 2011 or therabouts) and this thought just hit me. If good for film, why not paper?
(Or is that already dealt with in the Caffenol Cookbook and I've somehow missed it?)
I too am surrounded by them - so what does he sell the needles as being good for? I'm really curious now.
Terry S
they are good for sleeping on like a mattress, beats sleeping on rocks and rootsNo idea. He may not even have any takers.
Only applications I can think of would be re-balancing a nitrogen-rich compost pile, more likely, animal bedding, or possibly lining walkways?
thanks for your concern MichaelJohn, do you have any desired outcome here? I mean other than using the fewest possible ingredients, do you care about capacity or development time? And what is an acceptable number of ingredients?
If you’re dead set against 4 ingredients is 3 ok? You could try the “spoon” (no scale) version of D-23 (2 ingredients) and add some bromide as needed to prevent fog. I don’t know how long the development times would be for papers but you could try it.
Incidentally most developers need water. Does that count as an ingredient?
Yes. A true but irrelevant story follows: We fed a completely feral tomcat for a number of years who was so feral he would not allow you near him. You had to leave the food and go back inside before he'd eat. Well he survived several winters living in a bed of pine needles in a row of conifers just beyond the housethey are good for sleeping on like a mattress, beats sleeping on rocks and roots
Ilford has wonderful Phenidone paper formulas
ID-68I've yet to see a Phenidone-based paper developer - if such a mix exists, does anyone have the recipe?
E-72:I've yet to see a Phenidone-based paper developer - if such a mix exists, does anyone have the recipe?
Perhaps the simplest thing would be to just figure out a teaspoon version of a developer. Paper develops of course don't have to be that accurate. Something with Ascorbic Acid and Metol should be easy. E72 is a decent one that is supposed to use Phenidone but you can use Metol instead.
hey bob1 tablespoon=15 grams
https://www.fieldmag.com/articles/how-to-develop-film-with-coffee-caffenol-guide
"By the end of this article, you’ll have all the steps needed to develop film at home with instant coffee and water softener."
Just sayin'
Bob
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