If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
noblebeast said:If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
You just have to establish a fixed relationship with them not long after their early development stages.
noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
You just have to establish a fixed relationship with them not long after their early development stages.
What about the tone of the relationship? And can a relationship developed and fixed long ago still be reframed?
mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
You just have to establish a fixed relationship with them not long after their early development stages.
What about the tone of the relationship? And can a relationship developed and fixed long ago still be reframed?
Well, it really depends on your temperament. The tone of the relationship could be cold or, with a litle more work, it could warm up. Then again, if a relationship isn't developing correctly, you can always get really acidic about it and stop it from developing any further.
noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
You just have to establish a fixed relationship with them not long after their early development stages.
What about the tone of the relationship? And can a relationship developed and fixed long ago still be reframed?
Well, it really depends on your temperament. The tone of the relationship could be cold or, with a litle more work, it could warm up. Then again, if a relationship isn't developing correctly, you can always get really acidic about it and stop it from developing any further.
I see. And then wouldn't the temperament also determine how quickly the relationship developes? For example, sometimes the heat of the moment makes things develope much quicker than when one is dealing with a cooler attitude. And what about the temperament's role in bringing out both positive and negative attributes?
mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:If we don't name them, how will they know to "come" when we call them?
You just have to establish a fixed relationship with them not long after their early development stages.
What about the tone of the relationship? And can a relationship developed and fixed long ago still be reframed?
Well, it really depends on your temperament. The tone of the relationship could be cold or, with a litle more work, it could warm up. Then again, if a relationship isn't developing correctly, you can always get really acidic about it and stop it from developing any further.
I see. And then wouldn't the temperament also determine how quickly the relationship developes? For example, sometimes the heat of the moment makes things develope much quicker than when one is dealing with a cooler attitude. And what about the temperament's role in bringing out both positive and negative attributes?
Ah, yes, there is the fact that there are positive and negative attributes. But if one wishes to carfully consider the consequences of their actions, then they will see that the choices are as clearly defined as black and white. In fact, instead of enlarging the problem till it is completely out of proportion, they can instead try to come into direct contact with the problem. Of course, if a person choses to taint the argument with shades of color, then the whole negative aspect can instead become quite transparent.
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Ed Sukach said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:
Does anyone else here feel like they are driving through a tunnel?
Ed Sukach said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:mwtroxell said:noblebeast said:
photographs should not be named by the photographer because, they either need to speak for themselves or evoke an emotion, which could be altered or even killed by a title. A title messes with the creative process and the communication between artist and observer.Wednesday night at the Jacksonville Camera Club, we had a very useful, informative critique session. Members submitted prints to be commented on individually by three of the clubs better photographers. One of the photographs caused a discussion about the sessions format and raised the question of names.
The photo contained a lot of green vegetation surrounding one single white mushroom. One of the critiquers said he thought the subject of the photograph was the color itself, rather than an object within the photo. One of the other judges was bothered. Under the format, the photos were not labeled with names. He said didnt know what he was supposed to see as the subject.
The critiquer was uncomfortable seeing the photograph for himself. He wanted the crutch of a name to help him set definitions and limits for his feelings. It confirmed my thinking of the past few months.
I have began giving my photos Chinese names I dont speak Chinese beyond Hunan Chicken, and I doubt that many of the viewers of my photographs do. I did it so that the beholder would quickly dismiss the name and look at the photograph as a photograph not as a picture of something.
The first photo I so named is here
http://simmonsphotos.com/Galleries/XunRuiXu.html
I first though of naming it White Stump in a Graveyard but then I thought, Theres much more here than the white stump. It could well be seen as Gravesites Surrounding a Stump or even seen as the relationship of the curved sections at the top of the stump to the straight lines of the gravestones. Or the relationship of the white of the stump to the grays of the stones. If I gave the photo an intelligible name, it would limit the viewers relationship with the photo.
I found a little support in my reading. From The Way of Zen by Alan Watts When there are no names, the world is no longer classified in limits and bounds.
Also, from "Photographers on Photography" - an address given by Peter H. Emerson delivered to the Camera Club Conference, London, March 26, 1889 - (He discusses the failure of many photographs to succeed both scientifically and artistically) They serve, as many have served, as topographical records of faces, buildings, and landscapes, but often incorrect records at that. It is curious and interesting to observe that such work always requires a name (emphasis in original). It is a photograph of Mr. Jones, of Mont Blanc, or of the Houses of Parliament. On the other hand, a work of art really requires no name - it speaks for itself. It has no burning desire to be named, for its aim is to give the beholder aesthetic pleasure .
Do your photographs have a burning desire to be named?
juan
Ralph, All your photos are named on your web site. I assume you do that so someone can name the one they want to buy. Although I don;t sell pictures, I name them so if someone want to discuss, a name makes it easy.photographs should not be named by the photographer because, they either need to speak for themselves or evoke an emotion, which could be altered or even killed by a title. A title messes with the creative process and the communication between artist and observer.
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