Short movie film shot as still film processing

[Ektagraphic]

Hi Guys-
I know that some of us here have been upset that there is now no tungsten film that is left and some have talked about the movie films like the Vision 500T. I found this website here that will sell you short lengths of the film which you could wind into a 35mm cassette I suppose but who would process short lenghts of this film? Would we have to splice a whole bunch of 36 exp roll together that we shot and have them processed all at once by a motion picture lab but who would even do that. Anyways, here is what I found.

http://www.tapesuperstore.com/kovi50cone35.html

Patrick

 

[Ektagraphic]

What would happen with C-41 processing? I am going to try to get a hold of a cine lab that is only about 10 min from my house and see if they would proces short pieces.....

 

[Athiril]

Fresh stuff should look pretty decent in C-41, my 14+ year old 500T looks like arse in a standard developer, dmin isnt far away from dmax, 'overexposure' + high contrast developer + restrainer is needed to get a good range out of it.

Dont run it through a lab, the remjet partially comes off in any alkali solution, if you have a tank at home, you can give it a hit both with a little hydroxide with lots of agitation for several minutes, then tip it out and do it again with a fresh hydroxide bath, I've found if you do it right the second bath comes out clear and you've managed to get all the remjet off without having to wipe it with anything ("all" - might be a slight trace of it left on the back sometimes - but it doesnt come out in further chemical steps), and nothing gets into my developer when processing after that, you'd need to rinse in water after that, dry it and get it back into the canister for processing.

There's a ECN-2 pictorial recipe on here, which I tried on the expired Vision1 500T I have shot @ 100 speed shot in 5600K light, worked quite well, grainy though, recipe and exposure needs tweaking, I used CD-4 instead of CD-3 for this too.

Recipe I used:
Processed in 300ml solution with:
0.6g Sodium Sulphite
0.42g Potassium Bromide
7.68g Sodium Carbonate
0.81g Sodium Bicarbonate
0.66g CD-4 (1.5ml of Part-C of Kodak Flexicolor Minilab Developer Replenisher).

Got some CD-2 powder on the way I might try it with instead..

If you have access to colour chems, I mixing up a 2-bath "C-41" developer will work quite well, as the remjet wont budge in the first bath provided its not alkali (which you shouldnt make it), only in the second bath which is fine.. usually just water, alkali and a touch of bromide.

I've also developed without pre-removing the remjet (one shot), dissolves into the developer, I havent found it to affect the results or stick to the film.

Going to try some of the 50D tomorrow in a sheet film holder (ive only got it in 16mm reels).

 

[Nicholas Lindan]

Movie film has a 'rem-jet' anti-halation backing that will play Holy Hell with a c-41 developing line.

The only choices are a cine lab or doing it yourself.

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Ektagraphic]

The movie lab right near my house can process short pieces!!!

 

[wildbill]

this has come up many,many times on this forum in the past. Don't waste your time. Typically anything shorter than 200ft gets thrown away by the camera department. No sense in buying it.

 

[Ektagraphic]

this has come up many,many times on this forum in the past. Don't waste your time. Typically anything shorter than 200ft gets thrown away by the camera department. No sense in buying it.

?? I can buy pieces shorter than 200 ft so whay would there be no sense in buying it?

 

[georgegrosu]

Removing antihalation baching (graphite) is difficult and has the risks.
Fuji negatives (motion picture films) have not antihalation baching. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/motion_picture/products/#negative
I use ECN 2 process, without prebath, for photo film - not C 41.
Process ECN-2 Specifications: http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/h2407.pdf
George

 

[wildbill]

?? I can buy pieces shorter than 200 ft so whay would there be no sense in buying it?

I'm saying free film which is destined for the dumpster is much cheaper than buying it.

 

[Athiril]

f anyone wants to collect <200ft for me I'd be happy to recycle it

 

[David Grenet]

Indeed. It may be free to those on the shoot, but for the rest of us...

 

[removed account4]

places like seattle film works used to sell it + process it by the 35mm canister.
a roll of film could be processed, and slides or prints could be ordered from the roll.
i have heard there is a company or 2 still doing this, from short runs, scrap from the movie
industry, but i don't remember who does it ... you might do a search HERE for seattle film works
to see if it came up in the thread. they might be a good source for processing and getting images from it,
without getting a c41 lab upset with you for screwing up their chemistry ...

 

[MattKing]

Seattle film works changed their name to something with digital in it, and then recently stopped processing film

 

[nyoung]

A really lazy google search turns up Swan Film Works whose home page states they can process anything including old Seattle Film Works film. I'd try them if I needed to process short rolls of movie film.

 

[MattKing]

More details - Seattle Film works is no more:

http://www.photoworks.com/about?ic=pw36211

Welcome to PhotoWorks!

After a rich, 30-year history in film, photography, and outstanding customer service, PhotoWorks (formerly Seattle FilmWorks) was acquired in 2008 by AG Interactive, a subsidiary of American Greetings Corporation (NYSE: AM), known for its 100+ years of design expertise in innovative social expression products and personal connection tools. This powerful combination has made us a leading online personal publishing company that helps you capture and share the special moments of your life.

At PhotoWorks, it's easy and fun to share your digital photos ...

 

[Ektagraphic]

I am not worried about paying but am just happy that there is a 500 speed tungsten film that I can have processed 10 min from my house at http://cinelab.com/

 

[frobozz]

I am not worried about paying but am just happy that there is a 500 speed tungsten film that I can have processed 10 min from my house at http://cinelab.com/

They seem to have a 400ft minimum...

Duncan

 

[Ektagraphic]

I just emailed them and they said that they would take it.

 

[frobozz]

Definitely post back here how it works out! They could find themselves with a lot of business if word gets around...

Duncan

 

[frobozz]

So, how did it work out - have you found the mythical place-that-will-develop-36-exposures-in-ECN-2 ?

Duncan

 

[Ektagraphic]

There is another thread now discussing this...I'll get a link. I haven't had a chance yet but it is still on a list of things I would like to do. I think I am getting closer to giving it a whirl.

 

[Ektagraphic]

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

 

[Split70mm]

I can process scan and print slides from ECN-2 film. I could probably print ECN onto paper, but I haven't attempted this yet.


BTW, Cinelab is a great lab to work with! They gave me their ECN spooling machine so I can roll 35mm cassettes from up to 1,000 foot lengths.