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photo8x10 · Mar 19, 2008

Hi
Very intyeresting about ULF, now I'm trying the 8x10 films and after I'll order 8x20 films, I hope in this format could be possible have also iso 400.

Best
Stefano

Colin Graham · Mar 21, 2008

Rob_5419 said:
Believe it or not, there is a political dimension to the obscure art of film production, coating and marketing.

Frankly I don't give a monkey's toss where the film is produced, EU or not. No offence, but it's as nauseating as hearing whether Leica lenses are produced in Canada or Germany; Rollei lenses in Singapore or Japan or Germany; Carl Zeiss lenses in Germany AE version or Japanese MM versions,; whether Polaroid Type 55 is really Panatomic X from 50 years ago; whether... in this age of globalisation... AArgh. I'm going to have a wobbly. Sorry.

As Sandeha says, it's gorgeous in Rodinal. The emulsion is traditional; high quality tonal rendition and ultra-fine grain (NP15). If Geert can get it in whole plate format for export for enthusiasts, then why not support Wephota? It's not like it's some large Japanese digital corporation like Nokia behind it.

Digitaltruth lists many of the wephota emulsions as having the same developing times as various efke and forte films. I get tried of trying new film only to discover it's the same film I've already experimented at length with. I agree with Matti, that game gets old. Toss all the monkeys you want, but is there any info available about the film anywhere? I've googled it but can only find speculation in forums.

argus · Mar 21, 2008

Colin Graham said:
is there any info available about the film anywhere? I've googled it but can only find speculation in forums.

Colin, do you know Orwo? Well, it's basically the same. I have more info in that now.

Kind regards,
Geert

Colin Graham · Mar 21, 2008

Thanks very much Geert, I'll check it out. I'm running low on odd-sized fp4+ and getting a little panicky.

Anscojohn · Mar 21, 2008

I had very good results shooting ORWO NP15 in 35mm back in ye oldene dayz when that film was manufactured at a plant of the people's own undertaking VEB), fwiw.
John, Mount Vernon, Virginia USA

argus · Mar 21, 2008

Colin Graham said:
...odd-sized...

Colin,

that was my main reason to team up with Wephota: they are very flexible in the most different sheetfilm sizes.

Geert

Rob_5419 · Mar 24, 2008

Colin Graham said:
Digitaltruth lists many of the wephota emulsions as having the same developing times as various efke and forte films. I get tried of trying new film only to discover it's the same film I've already experimented at length with. I agree with Matti, that game gets old. Toss all the monkeys you want, but is there any info available about the film anywhere? I've googled it but can only find speculation in forums.

Wow! Bananas. This monkey I tossed just rebounded.

Matti's made his point clearer now. His first post didn't convey that. Lol. Try the film data sheet.

Uncle Goose · Mar 25, 2008

Do they make Rollfilm too??

argus · Mar 25, 2008

Uncle Goose said:
Do they make Rollfilm too??

They distribute rolfilm from other brands but I won't stock or sell them as I am concentrating on sheet film only.

Kind regards,
Geert

Colin Graham · Mar 25, 2008

Rob_5419 said:
Try the film data sheet.

Well, yes, I'd sincerely love to. But I can't find any info, as I said in my post. Sorry to be so high maintenance, but I can't seem to find any data sheets for orwo or wephota. If you have any links or data you can share that would be great.

matti · Apr 3, 2008

Maybe I should get some of this in 8x10 to try out with my big new to me Ansco-camera that is on the way. I see 100 is in stock (I don't have any shutter so 400 will be too fast for portraits...)
Anyone have a starting point this film in Pyrocat-HD?
10 minutes @ 20 C?
/matti

Marc Leest · Apr 6, 2008

Hello Geert,

I placed my order now for 8x10 sheets.
Since there is a little confusion about the processing times etc, could a datasheet of the film be made available.
I would e interested in processing this film in rotary in id11 stock and rodinal 1:50 tray.

thx, regards, Marc

Peter De Smidt · Apr 6, 2008

This stuff:http://www.filmotec.de/English_Site/Products/products.html ?

argus · Apr 6, 2008

Marc Leest said:
Hello Geert,

I placed my order now for 8x10 sheets.
Since there is a little confusion about the processing times etc, could a datasheet of the film be made available.
I would e interested in processing this film in rotary in id11 stock and rodinal 1:50 tray.

thx, regards, Marc

Hi Marc,

I will be processing a test batch in Rodinal 1+50 in tray tonight, 8x10 sheets in 25, 100 and 400ASA.

See mail regarding the ID11.

Kind regards,
Geert

mcfactor · Apr 29, 2008

I will try to translate the most important aspects. First a brief look into history: Maco Pan 25, Maco Ortho 25, Maco IR 820, Maco UP 100plus, Maco PO 100, Maco UP 64 and Maco TP 64c were exclusively made by Fotokemika (Efke, Croatia) for Maco. These films were special, selected production runs.This production was independant from the 'normal' Efke production.

The cooperation between Maco and Efke stopped some years ago due to reorganised production structures at Fotokemika. Therefore Maco films made by Fotokemika are history. There is no Efke film in the current Rollei film programme.
Then Fotoimpex started to sell some Efke films under the Adox brand.

Maco introduced a new film programme under the Rollei brand at Photokina 2004. These films are/were made by Filmotec (Wolfen, Germany), Agfa-Gevaert (Mortsel, Belgium) and AgfaPhoto (Leverkusen, Germany).

Rollei Retro 100/400: AgfaPhoto APX 100/400 (last production run in 2005, Leverkusen).
Rollei Pan 25: Made by Filmotec. It is an improved Orwo NP 15 emulsion with finer grain, different base and redesigned for new raw materials and more modern production processes at the new Filmotec plant in Wolfen.
Rollei Ortho 25: Made by Filmotec.
Rollei R³: Made by Filmotec.

All other films of the current Rollei film programme, including the new ATP high resolution film and the Superpan 200 film, are made by Agfa-Gevaert in Mortsel (Belgium). If you are interested in some pictures of Agfas current film production, have a look:

http://www.maco-photo.de/files/image...otogr_film.pdf

Maco does not have exclusive contracts with Filmotec and Agfa-Gevaert. Both companies are free to sell some of their products to other distributors.
Filmotec did this with Pan 25 and Ortho 25 (= Adox Pan 25, Adox Ortho 25).
And Agfa-Gevaert is selling some of their films to other distributers as well:
The high resolution films Gigabitfilm, Spur Orthopan UR and Adox CMS 20 are made by Agfa-Gevaert.

If I say 'made by' I mean emulsioning and coating. Cutting, packing etc. is made by other specialists, e.g. Photostar in Germany, but also some others.

Adox:
Adox CHS films: Made by Fotokemika.
Adox CHM films: Made by Ilford (old stock from the time before Ilfords management buy-out in 2005).
Adox CMS 20: Made by Agfa-Gevaert.
Adox Pan 25, Ortho 25: Made by Filmotec.

I hope your questions are now answered.

For some further details you may have a look at:
http://www.aphog.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=46714#46714
http://www.maco-photo.de/files/images/SW_55_06.pdf
http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX_Films/ADOX_Films.html

Best regards from Germany,
Henning

I found this in another thread.(there was a url link here which no longer exists) if it is true, and it makes sense, the 25 iso emulsion has to be the same as Rollei Pan 25/Adox pan 25. the only other possibility is Efke 25, which Geert has stated it is not.

obelix · Sep 16, 2008

Argus

Have you info regarding long exposure times?

How does Wephota react to Ilford developer Ilfordtec?

R

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