Shanghai Color Negative Film?

Ten301 · Mar 11, 2021

There’s a seller on an online auction site selling fresh (2022 expiration date) 400 ISO 135-27 exp color negative film from Shanghai Juan Cheng Technology, Ltd. Seller states it’s “Made in China”. Is this possible? I didn’t think any company in China still manufactured color film? Perhaps I’m mistaken?

cmacd123 · Mar 11, 2021

anything is possible. it is also possible that the film is imported as pancakes and packaged in China. Juan Cheng does sell a bunch of products - but I do not get the impression that they have coating facilities. The shanghai Photographic Materials business that made Shanghai film seems to have gone away.

mshchem · Mar 11, 2021

Didn't Kodak make color negative film in China?

cmacd123 · Mar 11, 2021

mshchem said:
Didn't Kodak make color negative film in China?

yes, they did. it was one of the highest rated plants for quality in their system. Vaguely recall that Lucky film may have been involved. Kodak had licenced the technolgy for an older version of Kodacolour to Lucky.

the China plant represented a LOT of KodaDollars down the drain : https://www.fluor.com/projects/kodak-film-plant-program-management

mshchem · Mar 11, 2021

cmacd123 said:
yes, they did. it was one of the highest rated plants for quality in their system. Vaguely recall that Lucky film may have been involved. Kodak had licenced the technolgy for an older version of Kodacolour to Lucky.

the China plant represented a LOT of KodaDollars down the drain : https://www.fluor.com/projects/kodak-film-plant-program-management

Wow, no kidding about wasted money. The People's whatever it's called voted on the Hong Kong situation today 2800+ voted to support Beijing's plan, 0 voted no, 1 abstained.

MixingBlix · Mar 13, 2021

The made in China color film is a joke.

A reseller in Shanghai just pull Kodak Ultramax 400 film out of it original package and put only 27 out of 36 frames into another canister with bulk film loader. Rebranding this film as "Shen Guang" color film. Then the 27 shots "made in China" film rolls were sold slightly cheaper than the geniune 36 shots Kodak ultramax 400. (Yep, you will see "Kodak ultramax400" on the edges of the film after development)

Finally, you got high quality color film from Chinese "factory" with "good deal"

Wayne · Mar 13, 2021

MixingBlix said:
The made in China color film is a joke.

A reseller in Shanghai just pull Kodak Ultramax 400 film out of it original package and put only 27 out of 36 frames into another canister with bulk film loader. Rebranding this film as "Shen Guang" color film. Then the 27 shots "made in China" film rolls were sold slightly cheaper than the geniune 36 shots Kodak ultramax 400. (Yep, you will see "Kodak ultramax400" on the edges of the film after development)

Finally, you got high quality color film from Chinese "factory" with "good deal"

Hopefully they also take those 9 frames per roll and tape 3 of them together to make another 27 frame roll.

foc · Mar 13, 2021

Wayne said:
Hopefully they also take those 9 frames per roll and tape 3 of them together to make another 27 frame roll.

and put them into a disposable camera. (yes it has been done and I have seen the multi splices in the developed films)

Wayne · Mar 13, 2021

Donald Qualls · Mar 13, 2021

More likely they're rerolling or relabeling cassettes intended for disposable cameras in the first place -- 27 is a very common frame count for those, and never mind if that count only applies if you can load the camera in the dark (hence avoid fogging the leader and first couple frames). I can usually get 27 frames on a properly marked 24 exposure roll with my Rollei 35, but that isn't going to happen with a full size 35mm SLR or my Kiev 4. One, maybe two extra frames (or one and a half, more commonly) is about the limit.

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