Semi-Stand VS Compensating developement

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Is there a difference in semi-stand and compensating development as described by Ansel Adams or are these two names for the same thing? I use the Adams method on scenes with very high tonal range with great success, is semi-stand really any different?

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Semi-Stand or Minimal Agitation types of film development have the ability to compress extreme amounts of contrast by it's own nature. Unlike the Adams technique, these two similar methods will heighten micro contrast while decreasing overall contrast.
 

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The term 'compensating developer' goes way back into the dim mists of photo lore.

The notion that diluting Rodinal, for instance, was the cause of gentler highlights and more shadow detail is an old one. Compensation was a foggy concept, and not always effective. Like today, some photographers got reliable and splendid results every day, while others swore up and down that it could never work.

The key was the amount of agitation. If the agitation was increased in proportion to the development time, no 'compensation' took place. When the magic happened is in the cases the development time increased but the relative amount of agitation decreased. Nobody really kept track of this stuff, the convention of massive agitation was hammered by the guardians of photo dogmatism, and we infidels just kept quiet about it and went about our business.

Adams was careful to point out the need to reduce agitation with his HC-110 technique, and the experts screamed. Today, many experts still claim compensation can take place, magically, with constant agitation and special developers... but reduced agitation is ineffective.

Much of the 'wisdom' of past years is based on flawed experimentation while the successes of workers like Steve Sherman is encouraging photographers to do the only really important thing a photographer can do: try it, and see what happens.
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There are more than three different forms of compensating development:

Divided development

Developer dilution

Agitation schemes

Each is somewhat different in its effects. They can be used in tandem..IE developer dilution and reduced agitation. I would imagine that all three could be combined. It is best to carefully test a proposed method before committing important work to it.
 

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Some special compensating developers are also worth considering. I used Windisch' Compensating Pyrocatechin developer on a film I shot during a partial solar eclipse - it held detail both in foreground (shadow) and the solar disk! I don't know what the brightness range is in that kind of scene; probably more than 24 stops. It's one of the old, disputed and criticised "magical" developers, but it really does work.
 

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The POTA developer was developed during research to resolve detail in thermonuclear explosions.
 

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Usually I try to stay out of my darkroom when this is happening....

Gerald Koch said:
The POTA developer was developed during research to resolve detail in thermonuclear explosions.
 

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OTH, you might want to stay in it if it were buried in a West Virginia hill.
 
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